That sounds like communism to me

At the start

So I think there's a distinction between a state run economy and socialism, although there's obvious overlap

that's just what I get when I google socialism

A state run economy would be socialist

every definition I can find specifies that the *people* need to be involved somehow

it would be if the people ran the state

you see the difference?

The people run the state

how do you distinct between people and well, people?

haha, between people in charge and otherwise?

A controlled economy is not inherently socialist

you look at whether they have elections

thank you obama lol

A planned economy IS socialist

and whether the elections are fair

no sir

yes

not at all

any planned economy is strictly socialist

Chungus

Socialism is a dictatorship of the proletariat

no hahaha

Big Chungus

Socialism is the means of production owned by the state or workers

by the state if the workers help decide the state

dictatorship of it “proletariat “ has a very fluid definition

otherwise it's not the community

Unless the workers have full control, of the means of production it is not socialism.

which is the entire point

They switch their definitions of workers all the time

Yes it is

It counts as socialism is the MoP is state run

Well if we redefine everything to fit your view then yes you are right

hahaha this is the problem I have in every discussion with sid @Obungus his definitions are different than mine in huge ways

But in practice the workers must control the means of production for there to be socialism

no it can be state run

And that’s wack changing definitions like that.

it’s either state or workers

it *can* be

Yes