Message from @Leo (BillNyeLand)

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2019-01-09 03:00:59 UTC  

But anon, that's where it gets confusing

2019-01-09 03:01:00 UTC  

But I’m going to go off of the Internet definition and say it’s when the means of production are collectively owned

2019-01-09 03:01:02 UTC  

When you say industry

2019-01-09 03:01:07 UTC  

Do you mean ALL industry? or just some?

2019-01-09 03:01:11 UTC  

There's different levels of socalism

2019-01-09 03:01:12 UTC  

most

2019-01-09 03:01:13 UTC  

I believe the advocacy for compensation for blacks is socially left. I believe prejudice against whites and the push for privilege and SJW common talking points are very leftist. SJW talking points and leftist social agendas are very popular amongst the public and celebrities

2019-01-09 03:01:26 UTC  

Yes, it's a very complicated topic and has many different meanings

2019-01-09 03:01:27 UTC  

But nobody advocates for most industries to be nationalized

2019-01-09 03:01:52 UTC  

I don't think Liberals are advocating for compensation

2019-01-09 03:01:53 UTC  

It is a very widespread topic, and worryingly popular

2019-01-09 03:01:59 UTC  

The very extreme just advocate for a nationalist healthcare and clean energy industry

2019-01-09 03:02:02 UTC  

Liberals might not be, leftists are

2019-01-09 03:02:06 UTC  

But even then thats still a small minority

2019-01-09 03:02:09 UTC  

^

2019-01-09 03:02:13 UTC  

Venezuela’s problem isn’t so much socialism as it was just idiotically printing virtually unlimited money. Cuba’s more socialist than Venezuela, and while they’re still not as good as free capitalist countries, they’re a heck of a lot better off than Venezuela

2019-01-09 03:02:20 UTC  

Yea

2019-01-09 03:02:25 UTC  

Their economy is not diversified

2019-01-09 03:02:26 UTC  

Very true

2019-01-09 03:02:39 UTC  

Their entire economy was based off of oil, so when oil prices dropped so did a large portion of their gov income

2019-01-09 03:02:44 UTC  

That also

2019-01-09 03:02:47 UTC  

So they couldn't fund all the social programs they put into place

2019-01-09 03:02:57 UTC  

Cuba’s been stagnant, Venezuela’s catastrophically collapses

2019-01-09 03:03:01 UTC  

Cuba is socialist, but their life expectancy is higher than America's

2019-01-09 03:03:06 UTC  

When oil prices were high in the late 2000's, Venezuela was booming

2019-01-09 03:03:10 UTC  

@chad Was your comment of that still being a small minority directed to me?

2019-01-09 03:03:21 UTC  

? Nah

2019-01-09 03:03:33 UTC  

I think he was talking about leftists being the minority

2019-01-09 03:03:37 UTC  

But also when it comes to the open borders thing

2019-01-09 03:03:47 UTC  

I'm kind of sick of that honestly, it's a lie right wing media keep saying over and over and over again

2019-01-09 03:03:52 UTC  

You best hope they are the minority

2019-01-09 03:04:12 UTC  

Such a tiny portion of the left actually wants open borders, but Trump makes it seem like it's mainstream policy

2019-01-09 03:04:21 UTC  

It's a dumb lie that I see nobody on the right calling out

2019-01-09 03:04:28 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-09 03:04:45 UTC  

The democrats literally put border security funding in their bill, that Trump rejected

2019-01-09 03:04:49 UTC  

Since it wasn't a wall

2019-01-09 03:04:50 UTC  

I saw multiple ads in which Trump used the words "Open Border Democrats"

2019-01-09 03:05:30 UTC  

Yes he constantly lies. His lies further divide the country but he doesn't care whatever helps him win re-election

2019-01-09 03:05:39 UTC  

You wouldn't expect a president to spread lies about the opposition

2019-01-09 03:05:50 UTC  

That's pretty authoritarian

2019-01-09 03:06:19 UTC  

Sadly a lot of Trump supporters are becoming slightly authoritarian lol