Its the same way now

But Obama didnt shut down the gov every time he wanted to do something and it wans't popular, it only happened once but after 2.5 weeks republicans and dems + obama worked together to end it

And guess what happened?

The republicans who worked with obama to end the shutdown ended up getting voted out

in the next election

Since republicans saw them as traitors

To get something you done, you need to shutdown because you're not going to get anything done if you're giving up on everything you proposed for.

Yes but Trump needs to respect the constitution and how our government works, the founding fathers designed our government in a way where only things that are really popular that a majority of the congress passes can become law

Trump clearly doesn't respect that and will try to go around it to which is what he's doing now

Because he got millions of votes because of a wall, so he isn't going to give up on it, people knew that was his proposal in his first speech, and nobody prepared for a deal, they waited until now and nothing has been figured out.

I wonder if you had these complaints when Obama exercised unprecedented executive overreach

he set this precedent, and democrats cheered

You know how much the shutdown has costed now? 3.6B

It's probably higher than that now. As this was Jan 11th.

Economic growth reduced by 0.13% each week.

The shutdown continues because democrats are opposed to the wall not practically, but morally.

Pelosi is going to decide to fly to Afghanistan whilst this happens.

they are traitors to American interests

^

No

that letter trump wrote to pelosi cracked me up

Such a fucking troll, i love it.

Loved to of seen her face when she saw it.

Who the hell decides to go to a foreign country when you're meant to be negotiating a shutdown?

like “you thought you could go overseas on tax dollars while 800,000 aren’t receiving pay? get outta here!”

Just making her side look worse than it already is.

her side couldn’t get any worse

trump can do it!

he can do anything

you just gotta believe 😉

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sjws are antisocial constructs

so do we do "LOCK HER UP" chants here?

Not that I know of, nobody wants to talk about witches anyway, not a popular subject.

thats okay

so what conservative people do you guys follow?

Quite a lot, Ben Shapiro, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Steven Crowder, Owen Shroyer, others but I don't wanna name all of them, too many.

oh yea there is alot of good ones these days

shapiro is really really good

He has some good debating skills, don't agree on everything though.

i really liked the thug life videos with him