Message from @Leo (BillNyeLand)
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eh I mean it's not even a factual matter, it's the moral recommendations I think are interesting, and that's not verifiable
if it helps people to get through it, why not
yeah totally h
I think religion comes a lot from lessons and stories past down that became legend, then myth, then religion
Like I said there has been healing from the word of God its just very hard to verify and thus use as proof. It would have to be from the horses mouth.
Because people believe what they hear from others, especially if it explains something other things can't
So for example the big bang never happened then by your logic
And a lot of the things in various religions, like the kosher diet or no meat on fridays or whatever, were actually historically useful for survival or health (like to prevent overconsumption of certain animals)
there's a difference between developing a mathematical model solely because you're curious about a situation, and just coming up with a story
the difference is the math
@Techigami what do you mean
I didn't say that because no one saw it that it didn't happen
I say it's that you shouldn't believe something solely on faith and testimonials
you should think critically and look for evidence
What's wrong with testimonials? It's recorded history
I mean
Independent testimonials of specific events are useful
wait what testimonials are ya talkin about
But "I believe the bible too!" is not worth as much
People like you have been around for 100s of years. The bibles reputation precedes itself. There's a reason its the #1 read book in the world. If it was obsolete and false it would've been lost to time and destroyed under the numerous attempts at its destruction.
or the Torah
if that was true
Religions persist because people like you believe them, which isn't your fault but is just a fact
huh? religious texts have been around before the bible, and have been questioned since their existence
Well those bear its fruits in what we see today versus what we see coming out of the Bible which is quite contrary
wait what do you mean by that I'm confused
People like you in Saudi Arabia, people like you in Israel, people like you in India
In china
North korea
Africa
They all believe as much as you do that their religion is the true one
Everywhere
China and north korea both had state intervention into religion
Yet they still persist
Africa is mostly Christian or Muslim
People are willing to die for what they believe in because there's something there that's more worth it in the end.
Exactly
People are willing to die for things they sincerely believe in
That's why there are volunteers in the Army, the fire department