Bottom line is I don't want the statues removed, but you seem to not give a shit about them

No, i give a shit. I realised after me and my friends went to virginia for a bit that we have no control over the situation

So, if i have no control over the situation then im going to be happy if it awakens people a little. Because otherwise we lose everything. We lose the statues AND no one would give a shit.

Im being realistic. I have realistic expectations with what i am seeing. And i am seeing that you, me, and the rest of us have NO CONTROL.

@Renaar exactly thank you renaar

Help me out bois

I have a friend who's claiming Unite the Right was a white power rally

because it was "led by a white supremacist"

anyone @here ?

it wasnt

it was an alt light rally

No one was leading anyway

^ this

Just a bunch of people from different parts of the right speaking

Where do they get the impression that Spencer was leading it

@cqc white nationalisrs were one group there

There were other right wing groups there too

Tell your friend that unlike the left the right has diversity of opinion

Also Richard Spencer is not a white supremacist

He is a white advocate and identitarian

He said in multiple occasions he doesn't believe whites are inherintly Superior

no one leads the right

Here's what he said in response
"Every poster I could find for the rally listed Richard Spencer, a known white nationalist, as the top attendee."
"the left has diversity of opinion except for intolerance"

Ask him what is intolerance? Is he tolerant of nationalism? Even civic nationalism that has no racial element?

Also tell him that white nationalist does not mean white supremacist

Those are two different things

"He believes in white supremacy. He is by definition a white supremacist. "Indentarian", "Alt-right", and "White advocate" are just political BS to make their movement sound like something other than it is: racism."

he cited this pic

Ask him what supremacist means

Also ask him to share proof that Spencer believes minorities should be slaves to whites.

No better way to debate these kinds of people than by fiercely insisting they back up their beliefs and speaking points

they'll either give up and resort to belittling you or mash together some hodgepodge of "sources"

Kek

I could use some pics to back up my side of things here

A white supremacist believes minorities should be slaves to whites. That whites should have supremecy to non whites. A white nationalist believes that non whites shouldn't live in a white homeland and be peacefully deported. Big difference. Spencer never advocated whites ruling over other races

Spencer said multiple times that slavery is wrong and it was a mistake. A white supremacist would never say that.

My friend: "Not a huge difference. You are supporting a man who believes in ethnic cleansing"

A white supremacist would say that it is whites right to rule over blacks because whites are superior to blackd

Tell your friend that he needs to choose his words more carefully and actually understand the definition of words and names

What would a white nationalist say on that last "An X would say" point?

My friend: " The "alt-right" can play name games all they like. It does not disguise the fact that they side with the KKK, with Neo-nazis, with white supremacists."