Message from @MikeyMike

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2018-08-13 12:29:40 UTC  

Trump is their Zuma

2018-08-13 12:29:48 UTC  

doesnt matter what he does, supporters will defend

2018-08-13 12:31:53 UTC  

When I see this I dont know if Politifact is liberal owned with its own Bias

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477183088141533209/478541204188037120/politifact.jpg

2018-08-13 12:35:25 UTC  

well thats your call to make.... but if evidence that contradicts your viewpoint makes you double down on your existing view point then I would suggest that no evidence will ever be enough

2018-08-13 12:36:00 UTC  

all I can say (anecdotally) was that a republican friend sent me this site after obama was elected to show how much he was lying

2018-08-13 12:36:17 UTC  

and on single items I have not encountered clearly biased findings

2018-08-13 12:36:38 UTC  

these graphs are the scores of investigated claims

2018-08-13 12:36:38 UTC  

I am always seeking the truth, but when I see such a difference between democrats and republicans on a website, I question what is not being told.

2018-08-13 12:37:12 UTC  

fair enough - it is possible that they choose not to investigate democrat lies, but you can search the site and see if your favourites are there

2018-08-13 12:37:19 UTC  

in my experience they are balanced

2018-08-13 12:37:46 UTC  

Its the first time I have seen the site, so please excuse my ignorance, I am just pointing out on first impressions

2018-08-13 12:38:09 UTC  

I am not trying to be rude (sorry if it comes off that way)

2018-08-13 12:38:48 UTC  

I am not radical leftist, I dont take offense 😃

2018-08-13 12:48:53 UTC  

Its still difficult to know what is true and false, I know that Poynter is funded by George Soros, as are many fact checking companies

2018-08-13 12:50:17 UTC  

yoh great trump chat!

2018-08-13 12:53:00 UTC  

Damn, wish every leftist would watch this with an open mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVruEq-Gupk

2018-08-13 12:53:19 UTC  

I love Trump because he flips the bird at everybody. He has completely derailed mainstream media and doesn't give a shit.

2018-08-13 12:53:51 UTC  

@Robzombie I saw that earlier today, was def interesting

2018-08-13 12:54:12 UTC  

And his presidency isn't terrible either. The markets are doing fine. The people who hate him are just emotional.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/477183088141533209/478546819182231552/AK5OC6WS5I4SDIAIYOIOPGZFCI.png

2018-08-13 12:54:52 UTC  

Watching how people have lost their minds with Trump is the best when in actually fact he isn't doing to much of a kak job. Also can not judge the man to hard 2.5 years into office.

2018-08-13 12:55:54 UTC  

@Tom_Servo

"Trump on balance can't be described as a good person, but because of the bloody nose he gave the left people will defend the indefensible."

Describing him as good or bad is not something we can do, since it is a moral judgement, and we don't know him. We only know what the media portrays. Therefore, good or bad is irrelevant.

2018-08-13 12:56:23 UTC  

@Jerm yeah and i am in support of his trade war....why...because the Chinese have defrauded the US with almost 1 trillion dollars in the last 10 years, if you have netflix watch the chinese hustle docu....very interesting

2018-08-13 12:57:00 UTC  

I don't buy arguments favouring "balance" anymore. I used to, when I was naive.

2018-08-13 12:57:16 UTC  

At the end of the day, if he is "Making America Great Again" what more do the people want

2018-08-13 12:57:41 UTC  

exactly

2018-08-13 12:57:53 UTC  

Also, Hilary was president for 2 terms during the 90s. Why would she want to be president again?

2018-08-13 12:58:06 UTC  

he is probably the only Prez that is actually doing as he promised

2018-08-13 12:58:11 UTC  

@Roovdwalt They want to "feel safe".

2018-08-13 12:58:21 UTC  

She also wanted some fun in the Oval room like Bill did

2018-08-13 12:58:37 UTC  

@Jerm to exploit and capture more oil fields off course

2018-08-13 12:58:56 UTC  

Hilary also stated she wanted a wall, back in 2009, I think.

2018-08-13 12:59:09 UTC  

The difference is that she said "fence" and not "wall".

2018-08-13 13:00:32 UTC  

Its illogical to NOT want a wall... or barrier, or fence.... regardless of its make up

2018-08-13 13:01:45 UTC  

"As a senator from New York, Clinton voted to authorize war not just in Afghanistan but in Iraq, too, despite a less-than-compelling case for invading the latter country. She also supported extended occupations that have failed to accomplish anything other the near-complete destabilization of the entire Middle East and Central Asian regions. Incredibly, she still talks about the U.S. intervention in Libya—which she argued for forcefully as Secretary of State—as an example of "smart power." "

2018-08-13 13:02:03 UTC  

"Add to that her near-complete failure while serving as the nation's top diplomat (including a ludicrously botched "reset" with Russia) and her calls for increasing all manner of surveillance in the service of the global war on terror and you're looking at a huge increase in state power with little sense of balance or responsibility."

2018-08-13 13:02:45 UTC  

Clinton on free speech:

""You're going to hear all of the usual complaints—you know, 'freedom of speech,' etc.," she said. "But if we truly are in a war against terrorism and we are truly looking for ways to shut off their funding, shut off the flow of foreign fighters, then we've got to shut off their means of communicating.""

2018-08-13 13:03:35 UTC  

"Clinton however supported the odious Defense of Marriage Act signed by her husband in the late 1990s, which was an attempt to forestall recognition of gay marriage. In fact, she only embraced marriage equality in 2013, in a conversion that is widely seen as political."

2018-08-13 13:03:45 UTC  

The woman flipflipped incredibly.

2018-08-13 13:04:54 UTC  

She also opposes free trade deals like NAFTA, CAFTA, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

2018-08-13 13:05:04 UTC  

She would have been a tragic president.