Message from rob in Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars


2018-07-20 13:56:28 UTC  

Yes and ideology shapes your perception right? Influences your choices and the way you understand and interact with the material world. It's a collection of ideas that shape your understanding. Religion is probably the better term to define the worshipping of an idea.

2018-07-20 13:57:20 UTC  

so if you 'believe' in social justice you put the cause of social justice in your heart, if you 'believe' in capitalism you put money in your heart

2018-07-20 13:57:32 UTC  

and you always try to accumulate more of that

2018-07-20 13:58:25 UTC  

but the point of the major religions was working out that actually you have this port in your heart to the source of all creation and that is the only thing worth going there

2018-07-20 13:58:28 UTC  

Yes, those ideas you prefer, form your ideological perception of the world and w what you value.

2018-07-20 13:59:42 UTC  

read the Crichton PDF "Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is
environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for
urban atheists. Why do I say it's a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs.
If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect
21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.
There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature,
there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating
from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a
judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die,
unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability
is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its
communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right
beliefs, imbibe." consider how these hardwired biological slots get filled by ideology

2018-07-20 14:01:44 UTC  

Same story being repeated in a fresh perspective... The present rhymes like that with history.

2018-07-20 14:02:49 UTC  

My basis is the physiological reality, as I said the chakra system maps to the glands in the endochrine system, your body produces extremely powerful tryptamines and an orgasm in your pineal gland could definitely trigger a spiritual experience, all of the religions seem to be started by someone who unlocks the secret and chooses to help humanity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva)

2018-07-20 14:03:44 UTC  

also each religion gets centralised and corrupted, like clockwork

2018-07-20 14:03:46 UTC  

Agreed, and corruption always looks for a way to subvert the truth... 😑

2018-07-20 14:04:04 UTC  

Lol

2018-07-20 14:04:18 UTC  

we are in cospiracy corner though, have you read the law of one, ra material?

2018-07-20 14:04:55 UTC  

channeled work allegedly from Ra

2018-07-20 14:05:08 UTC  
2018-07-20 14:05:50 UTC  

I haven't read that much yet to be honest, I've only awoken from my slumber about 4 years ago. So much to catch up and learn still, but so much garbage to sift through.

2018-07-20 14:06:01 UTC  

absolutely

2018-07-20 14:06:08 UTC  

so much disinfo

2018-07-20 14:06:21 UTC  

and distraction

2018-07-20 14:06:34 UTC  

that's why seeking within is important

2018-07-20 14:07:43 UTC  

Yes, this is why i also put so much emphasis on reasoning... I need to be able to discern, don't want to fall in the trap of doing with whatever my feelings dictate.

2018-07-20 14:09:21 UTC  

if you are truly ready for the truth you then 10+day fast or you eat 10+g of 🍄 and it's always been there

2018-07-20 14:10:28 UTC  

but I wouldn't recommend hanging around, I think that the spirit world has good and evil, just like the material world, I think exploring extremely deeply is a calling

2018-07-20 14:10:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/469868771897638933/unknown.png

2018-07-20 14:11:08 UTC  

free will is the whole point of this reality

2018-07-20 14:11:09 UTC  

I've had a few trips, but i catagorize the dependency of poisoning the body to induce that as not the optimal way.

2018-07-20 14:12:25 UTC  

fasting is the ultimate non external way

2018-07-20 14:12:25 UTC  

Ditsem! @rob, you just advanced to level 7!

2018-07-20 14:12:36 UTC  

available to everyone at all times

2018-07-20 14:13:53 UTC  

Yeah fasting I agree with, i mean it requires mastery and free will not to be a slave to your biological composition.

2018-07-20 14:13:53 UTC  

I came to this whole thing in a very roundabout manner, so I have no problems with cubensis I think it might have played a crucial role in our development as a species, but you definitely don't need it

2018-07-20 14:15:15 UTC  

but the mushroom is another conscious entity that you interact with that helps you. I suppose it wouldn't be as direct. similarly the jungle plants seem to be different entities.

2018-07-20 14:15:37 UTC  

Yeah mushrooms was actually an alternate method of suicide, instead of actually offing myself, i substituted it with an ego death instead. Dont regret it at all. I genuinely do believe that these substances have their merits and values, but I do oppose the recreational abuse of it.

2018-07-20 14:16:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/469870200221597716/unknown.png

2018-07-20 14:17:07 UTC  

as I was saying earlier I think that sages and scientists are similar, in that the environments that they need to go to to find truth are potentially remote and hazardous, and the lessons learned are more important than the laboratories.. if you get the message hang up the phone

2018-07-20 14:17:08 UTC  

and 10 grams i think is way more than the necessary threshold, that's losing complete control i would imagine, I havent gone above 3grams yet honestly.

2018-07-20 14:17:27 UTC  

5 is the usual heroic dose level

2018-07-20 14:18:23 UTC  

Yeah agreed with that, but ive heard some of the garbage many of those psychonauts return with... not the best of intentions

2018-07-20 14:18:43 UTC  

more is better because you don't really have any options and your entire ego is obliterated immediately, you don't have enough consciousness to notice entities or spirits on the way, just exposure to the torrential river of all creation

2018-07-20 14:18:57 UTC  

obviously don't do that on a nite out in long st

2018-07-20 14:19:24 UTC  

Yeah 5grams is a lot for something that tastes like shit lol, honestly thats why i never got to 5grams, i get to a point of wanting to vomit... and this is coming from someone that doesnt even like normal veggie mushrooms lol

2018-07-20 14:19:44 UTC  

lol