Message from Frederick Bernal in Willem Petzer Live Chat #general


2018-07-17 17:48:18 UTC  

Especially as it pertains to gun control and self defence

2018-07-17 17:48:19 UTC  

Ditsem! @Frederick Bernal, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-17 17:48:35 UTC  

SA gun laws are causing chaos at the moment.

2018-07-17 17:54:05 UTC  

What part of the firearm is considered the “gun” itself in SA?

2018-07-17 17:54:25 UTC  

In the US and in Canada just the receiver is the firearm

2018-07-17 17:54:45 UTC  

Everything else can be acquired with out a license or permit in general

2018-07-17 17:55:16 UTC  

In the UK it is the bolt, and trigger mechanism

2018-07-17 17:55:38 UTC  

Or is it the case that in SA every component is regulated?

2018-07-17 17:55:38 UTC  

Im just asking on GOSA facebook group.

2018-07-17 17:55:44 UTC  

Ok

2018-07-17 17:59:18 UTC  

Hmm

2018-07-17 18:00:17 UTC  

From what I can find it seems “main firearm component” means the barrel, frame, receiver, slide, bolt or breech-block of a firearm

2018-07-17 18:00:33 UTC  

That is more onerous than what the UK has to deal with

2018-07-17 18:00:38 UTC  

Huh

2018-07-17 18:01:11 UTC  

Those CAD files would still be very resourceful for those with the right tools and equipment though

2018-07-17 18:02:09 UTC  

What is your source for info on componet regulations in SA?

2018-07-17 18:02:26 UTC  

One second

2018-07-17 18:03:27 UTC  

Page 6

2018-07-17 18:03:31 UTC  

Right at the top

2018-07-17 18:03:57 UTC  

Basically under definitions

2018-07-17 18:05:37 UTC  

Further I found more info on a forum on the topic back in 2012

2018-07-17 18:06:23 UTC  

Barrel needs to be registered with your license it seems

2018-07-17 18:07:32 UTC  

Thanks Frederick

2018-07-17 18:08:11 UTC  

Well enjoy the CAD files, for educational purposes

2018-07-17 18:08:11 UTC  

Ditsem! @Frederick Bernal, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-07-17 18:09:45 UTC  

Its stupidly difficult to get a gun licence now, my cousin needed a police officer to sign his form and in the police station a black officer said "why do you need a gun? your going to kill my people with it?' and tore it up.

2018-07-17 18:10:07 UTC  

That is stupid

2018-07-17 18:10:35 UTC  

yaman and the irony is that we all had guns and handed them over in the amnesty

2018-07-17 18:11:02 UTC  

It would be interesting to know those numbers

2018-07-17 18:11:09 UTC  

I imagine some people held back some

2018-07-17 18:11:50 UTC  

Even here in Canada when we had 4-5 million licensed people only half opted in the new licensed system

2018-07-17 18:12:00 UTC  

That was back in the 90s

2018-07-17 18:12:07 UTC  

will never get them all, also i suspect that they sold alot of them to criminals or 'lost' them

2018-07-17 18:12:36 UTC  

The RCMP screwed the pooch on the registry as well as half of the data got scrambled

2018-07-17 18:12:57 UTC  

So there are a lot of firearms off the reserve

2018-07-17 18:13:08 UTC  

They aren’t being used in crimes though

2018-07-17 18:13:31 UTC  

More likely to have been tucked away in SA

2018-07-17 18:13:45 UTC  

Depending on the circumstances for each owner at that time