Message from @Night Terror

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2019-02-14 04:47:28 UTC  

Or do you feel goodmods support links sufficient

2019-02-14 04:57:09 UTC  

I only know Illinois Legal aid.

2019-02-14 04:57:24 UTC  

I can provide some links.

2019-02-14 04:58:37 UTC  

Good place to start. I can also post some more case-specific templates when needed.

2019-02-14 12:07:24 UTC  

Its in Florida but i will look at the link . Even being in the military i get treated like shit . My next goal is to get a female to call and say the same thing i said and see how far they get.

2019-02-16 02:54:56 UTC  

@ThatsReallyGr8 http://www.ncsl.org/research/human-services/child-support-and-incarceration.aspx "On one path, the noncustodial parent is not in compliance with a child support obligation and that noncompliance may lead to incarceration (short-term, primarily in local jails) as a result of either a civil contempt or criminal non-support action taken by the state."

2019-02-16 02:56:08 UTC  

It's really bad. It's like sending people to debtors prison.

2019-02-16 02:56:34 UTC  

That's exactly what it is, because if you're in debt over 5k to child support, you get jailed

2019-02-16 02:56:39 UTC  

And yeha

2019-02-16 02:56:44 UTC  

Its all 50 states:

18 U.S.C. § 228- Failure to pay legal child support obligations

Section 228 of Title 18, United States Code, makes it illegal for an individual to willfully fail to pay child support in certain circumstances.

For one, an individual is subject to federal prosecution if he or she willfully fails to pay child support that has been ordered by a court for a child who lives in another state, or if the payment is past due for longer than 1 year or exceeds the amount of $5,000. A violation of this law is a criminal misdemeanor, and convicted offender face fines and up to 6 months in prison (See 18 U.S.C. § 228(a)(1)).

2019-02-16 02:56:52 UTC  

federal misdemeanor

2019-02-16 02:58:46 UTC  

The sherrifs office was in my building looking for someone one day

2019-02-16 02:59:15 UTC  

Like 8 dudes at 6am banging on everyone's doors shouting about a warrant and child support

2019-02-16 03:07:06 UTC  

Dude that's fucked up

2019-02-16 03:07:29 UTC  

In some states if you don't pay child support you can get your license revoked

2019-02-16 03:07:48 UTC  

You know... The thing you need to get to work to pay the child support

2019-02-16 03:09:02 UTC  

Yeah it's all so messed up man

2019-02-16 03:09:27 UTC  

Like these people that have to pay fines when they get out of jail and can't so go back to jail and get more fines.

2019-02-16 03:19:43 UTC  

its basically the legal version of male financial slavery

2019-02-16 13:05:25 UTC  

So if they go to jail do they have to pay the child support that was owed. I feel like if you go to jail then you start back at 0 . If you go to jail you can lose your jail. So this going to jail doesnt make sense. There should be a financial hear to see what causing you not to pay

2019-02-16 15:40:02 UTC  

Here's some info on what happens when it comes to paying child support in jail. It doesn't get reduced to zero at all, in fact could accumulate more. This help article is for Massachusetts but I have no reason to suppose it cant be applied to other US states

2019-02-16 22:28:07 UTC  

dude ...thats practically slavery for men

2019-02-18 05:53:14 UTC  

And this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520987662572584961/546932180371374110/15504691700532486281346770655461.jpg

2019-02-18 09:03:04 UTC  

That's like something from Soviat Russia. That law is made specifically to bleed men dry and then distroy them.

2019-02-18 18:56:55 UTC  

Hey guys, I’m at the end of my rope here and don’t know where to start. I am separated from my ex wife and she is not giving me access to my son. I currently live in Florida with my girlfriend and second son. My ex and my first born son live in Ohio. I am a veteran with ptsd waiting for a decision on disability so we live off of my girlfriends income. My budget is very tight and all I want is to see my son and help him grow. I’m fucking lost....

2019-02-18 18:59:14 UTC  

It's gonna be hard to hear but unless you have a court order which already dictates visitation you need to speak to a lawyer to get one ASAP, which is gonna mean spending money

2019-02-18 18:59:44 UTC  

So I’m just fucked until I can afford a lawyer?

2019-02-18 19:00:30 UTC  

You can look into some forms of legal aid, being a disabled vet may give you some advantages there

2019-02-18 19:00:48 UTC  

Any idea what the cheapest route be?

2019-02-18 19:03:05 UTC  

Not specifically no, but we do have some sites listed. I'm not the one specifically to ask about finding the best lawyer though, I haven't done it myself

2019-02-18 19:03:28 UTC  

Lucky lol this shits brutal

2019-02-18 19:04:42 UTC  

Yea I've heard stories and it all seems so tough :< I'm hoping being in a different state won't be held against you by the courts, I think that depends who moved out of state

2019-02-18 19:05:31 UTC  

I did. I don’t want full custody or anything like that just the basic visitation schedule would make me a very happy guy

2019-02-18 19:10:59 UTC  

Of course.. If you can get a free consultation then they can explain the process and things and how much things are likely to cost, that would be the first step. Try not to think of it as a massive thing and just do one thing at a time so you get to see your child, it's easy to get depressed and such if it feels like too much

2019-02-18 19:13:29 UTC  

Thanks for the encouragement. You’re right having to fight to see your kids is really exhausting, but I suppose it is the only option with my ex refusing. The worst part of it all is my kiddo getting caught in the middle

2019-02-18 19:14:54 UTC  

Yea, it sucks for both of you, but you're doing what you can to see them and that's important, making sure you stay a part of his life no matter who tries to stop you

2019-02-18 19:17:19 UTC  

Thanks again. At least now I know what the first step is.

2019-02-18 19:18:18 UTC  

No worries man, hopefully you'll come back and update us after that on how things are going :)