Message from @asparkofpyrokravte
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That Israel study is gold though!
Unlike the other studies concerning teacher bias which had all read the prior literature and said basically "as expected, teachers mark down boys...", the Israel study actually notes in the abstract that contrary to expectations teachers don't mark down girls, rather they mark down boys
"male students face discrimination in *each* subject" is right there in the abstract
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Those are all good points. I haven't read them yet as I have only just gotten back from work.
If that is the case, I'll leave it to you to cite the Israel study. By the way, I'm thinking that mentioning what you just said in the article would be a really good idea.
Help people see behind the feminist curtain, so to speak.
Good point
I'll do that
@asparkofpyrokravte lol mate check your Reddit replies xD
Same one as what?
Oh, lol
oops
Happens to everyone :3
Hrm, the Israel study, unlike the other studies is based off of two different exams, rather than the same exam randomly split into blind and non-blind groups. This serves as something of a confounding factor, since I suspect boys are simply legitimately better at standardized testing such as SATs -- for reasons completely separate from the course material. SATs are dumb. Thus the Israel paper's conclusion that boys were statistically significantly discriminated against in math is suspect
Even though that would jive with the subreddit's anecdotal experience of discrimination in math
That 0.48 of a standard deviation discrimination in literature though
Ouchie
I've certainly seen studies that indicate boys do better on standardised tests, and ones that indicate girls are better with coursework (so of course coursework has been increased over the last couple decades)
A study indicating that and the increase of coursework could possibly be included in the article
I'm not going to look for that, because my main sources for the gender bias here doesn't have this failing, both the blind and non-blind scores were the same test
And wasn't a standardized test either
However
In order to say that girl's issues with school environment are taken seriously
Because this goes way beyond just testing results
There are probably better sources for this sort of thing
but I'm not going to make a major point out of it
If you have one I wouldn't turn it down though
I'm getting a 404 error on that link, mate, I'll have a read through it and see of I can dig up anything that might be better
oh, dang, I seem to have myscopied the link
Not sure how that came out as fixies instead of fix, but hey
Thanks
It might be worth considering this one: https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/06/schools-colleges-failing-boys-masculinity @asparkofpyrokravte
Hrm, that's actually not useful to me
It points out taxpayer dollars trying to get girls into STEM
but that is very employment focused
whereas I'm looking for schoolroom changes.
Another thing I'm looking for is some study or aticle that notes that schoolroom behavioral differences, like boy's figeting. I can only get the abstract for this thing, and not the whole work: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.2044-8279.1993.tb01043.x
I was thinking along the lines of it illustrating that people care when girls need help but not boys, but I get your point.