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If anyone is up for writing us an article on Education, that post about boys lagging behind and Feminists being fine with that is a great place to start.
Alright, In addition to that one, I've gotten some more sources:
- Biological differences
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/hope-relationships/201402/brain-differences-between-genders
- Mental Illness
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/cdc-increases-estimate-autisms-prevalence-15-percent-1-59-children
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1469-7610.1975.tb01269.x
(76.7% of reading disabilities).
https://adhd-institute.com/burden-of-adhd/epidemiology/gender/
- Performance gap
Girls better in all school subjects, including math and science, and for
nearly a century -- but not on standardized tests: http://www.titleixforall.com/study-girls-get-higher-grades-than-boys-in-all-school-subjects/
- Some issues addressed
Reading issues are being addressed: https://equalitycanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Exploring-the-Boys-Crises-in-Education.pdf
- Education Discrimination
Teacher gender matters, boys know it, and apply themselves less because of it: http://cee.lse.ac.uk/ceedps/ceedp133.pdf
Gender disparities in student grades, presumably due to teacher bias, but
based on student behavior rather than ability:
https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/55134/1/682988421.pdf?version=meter+at+null&module=meter-Links&pgtype=Blogs&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click
OECD concurs: http://www.oecd.org/newsroom/early-gender-gaps-drive-career-choices-and-employment-opportunities.htm
One attempt to quantify this bias suggests that "Over the four years of middle
school, teachers’ gender bias against boys accounts for 21 percent of boys
falling behind girls in math." https://mitili.mit.edu/sites/default/files/project-documents/SEII-Discussion-Paper-2016.07-Terrier.pdf
Unfortunately, The Boy Crisis doesn't really help that much with explaining boy's education issues because its sources are kinda shite. For instance, it notes that boys are much less enthused about school than they used to be, but when looking at the data that is equally an issue for girls. One thing the book does help with is noting that broken families really, really hurt and are part of a vicious cycle (failures at school are more likely to have failed marriages and failed jobs, which cause failures at school for the next generation).
I'll see if I can put something together with that in the coming days
but if I don't get finished for some reason, that should provide fertile ground for explaining the goings on for boy's issues in education
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Oh, right, that bot
Other interesting things to look at are that when girls face similar issues that boys are suffering from failures in motivation, changes in pedagogy are recommended: https://www.theguardian.com/world/us-news-blog/2013/feb/05/girls-science-gender-gap-fixies.
And that while most gender bias seems based on the sources I found to be based in classroom behavior, some is direct sexism: http://reason.com/archives/2018/05/23/prof-bumps-female-students-stem-grades-b
I was also looking for a study where schoolwork was submitted using pseudonyms that got graded differently based on gender, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the links. They will be useful in writing articles. Would you like to do one yourself?
I intend to, we'll see if I can pull something together in the coming days
Also, to keep things in this channel up to date, @InsaneCaterpilla provided a an excellent source from France showing that it isn't likely just classroom behavior driving the bias: https://www.ipp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/n14-notesIPP-december2014.pdf
Thanks!
Yw x_X I get shy around praise, please don't make a habit of it :p
Don't worry. I'll try to not do it then. XD I could just add a /s after the thank yous.
Thanks a lot! I mean it! /s
How's that? :D
Well now that just sounds mean
Sorry.
I was trying to make you feel better
I am not good at that
Where's my Ferrari >.>
XD
If it runs Ofc that's fine
These citations are all for boys being marked lower than girls for the same work in school:
United Kingdom:
https://flora.insead.edu/fichiersti_wp/inseadwp2013/2013-66.pdf
United States:
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/education_seminar_series/Mustard.pdf
Israel:
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/vlavy/lavy_j.public.e_10.2008_gender_steriotypes.pdf
OECD countries:
https://internationalednews.com/2015/03/05/whats-new-oecd-report-gender-equality-in-education/
Careful, those are actually all studies I linked above just with different covers, except for the Israel study. Note that the OECD study, if you look at the actual source material instead of the headlines basically moves mountains to make a feminist justification for the gender bias. Though the actual OECD press release that I linked states the teacher bias more clearly than either the source material or the internationalednews article.
That Israel study is gold though!
Unlike the other studies concerning teacher bias which had all read the prior literature and said basically "as expected, teachers mark down boys...", the Israel study actually notes in the abstract that contrary to expectations teachers don't mark down girls, rather they mark down boys
"male students face discrimination in *each* subject" is right there in the abstract
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Those are all good points. I haven't read them yet as I have only just gotten back from work.
If that is the case, I'll leave it to you to cite the Israel study. By the way, I'm thinking that mentioning what you just said in the article would be a really good idea.