Message from @Men Are Human
Discord ID: 517788060994502677
"TakeRep" command returned an error: Not enough arguments passed
Oh, right, that bot
Other interesting things to look at are that when girls face similar issues that boys are suffering from failures in motivation, changes in pedagogy are recommended: https://www.theguardian.com/world/us-news-blog/2013/feb/05/girls-science-gender-gap-fixies.
And that while most gender bias seems based on the sources I found to be based in classroom behavior, some is direct sexism: http://reason.com/archives/2018/05/23/prof-bumps-female-students-stem-grades-b
I was also looking for a study where schoolwork was submitted using pseudonyms that got graded differently based on gender, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the links. They will be useful in writing articles. Would you like to do one yourself?
I intend to, we'll see if I can pull something together in the coming days
Also, to keep things in this channel up to date, @InsaneCaterpilla provided a an excellent source from France showing that it isn't likely just classroom behavior driving the bias: https://www.ipp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/n14-notesIPP-december2014.pdf
Thanks!
Thanks a lot
Yw x_X I get shy around praise, please don't make a habit of it :p
Don't worry. I'll try to not do it then. XD I could just add a /s after the thank yous.
Thanks a lot! I mean it! /s
How's that? :D
Well now that just sounds mean
Sorry.
I was trying to make you feel better
I am not good at that
Where's my Ferrari >.>
XD
If it runs Ofc that's fine
United Kingdom:
https://flora.insead.edu/fichiersti_wp/inseadwp2013/2013-66.pdf
United States:
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/education_seminar_series/Mustard.pdf
Israel:
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/vlavy/lavy_j.public.e_10.2008_gender_steriotypes.pdf
OECD countries:
https://internationalednews.com/2015/03/05/whats-new-oecd-report-gender-equality-in-education/
Careful, those are actually all studies I linked above just with different covers, except for the Israel study. Note that the OECD study, if you look at the actual source material instead of the headlines basically moves mountains to make a feminist justification for the gender bias. Though the actual OECD press release that I linked states the teacher bias more clearly than either the source material or the internationalednews article.
That Israel study is gold though!
Unlike the other studies concerning teacher bias which had all read the prior literature and said basically "as expected, teachers mark down boys...", the Israel study actually notes in the abstract that contrary to expectations teachers don't mark down girls, rather they mark down boys
"male students face discrimination in *each* subject" is right there in the abstract
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Those are all good points. I haven't read them yet as I have only just gotten back from work.
If that is the case, I'll leave it to you to cite the Israel study. By the way, I'm thinking that mentioning what you just said in the article would be a really good idea.
Help people see behind the feminist curtain, so to speak.
Good point
I'll do that
@asparkofpyrokravte lol mate check your Reddit replies xD
Same one as what?
Oh, lol
oops
Happens to everyone :3
Hrm, the Israel study, unlike the other studies is based off of two different exams, rather than the same exam randomly split into blind and non-blind groups. This serves as something of a confounding factor, since I suspect boys are simply legitimately better at standardized testing such as SATs -- for reasons completely separate from the course material. SATs are dumb. Thus the Israel paper's conclusion that boys were statistically significantly discriminated against in math is suspect
Even though that would jive with the subreddit's anecdotal experience of discrimination in math
That 0.48 of a standard deviation discrimination in literature though
Ouchie
I've certainly seen studies that indicate boys do better on standardised tests, and ones that indicate girls are better with coursework (so of course coursework has been increased over the last couple decades)