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I did it in reddit format because hyperlink-text isn't a discord thing

Topics to discuss after the half include the reading and language gap having been (and being) addressed and successfully reduced (and probably an brief argument that schooling ought to be responsive to gendered issues for both genders), and that telegraph article:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/11/16/boys-left-fail-school-attempts-help-earn-wrath-feminists-says/

@asparkofpyrokravte is there more of an intro before what you've put here?

No, I imagine just the title being something like "Issues for Boy's Education" and then just hitting the ground with that brief statement "Boys have particular needs with regard to education." to justify an explanation and then continuing into things. It may need improving

To me it does seem like more is needed mate... Something to engage readers attention to what you have to say. Just on the face of it, it looks like it wouldn't call the average persons attention to wanting to delve into these issues. Asking some questions of the readers at the start is a good tactic to engage people, just something as simple as 'why are our boys failing in schools?' 'What can we do to help our boys in school and what are the issues they face?' It may seem like handholding, but asking those questions and then leading the reader through the studies and conclusions makes them feel more involved/invested in the article

Ew, it does seem like handholding haha

But what you say is fair, it is abrupt as is

Looks good so far! By the way, if you do it as a word doc it might be easier and I can copy it directly across to the site, preserving all hyperlinks. Up to you if you want to.

Btw, I have been thinking about this idea Feminists have that men dont get scared out at night. Anyone want to try andnmake a list of similar misconceptions about men?

Men don't get sexist remarks made towards them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/a1apxa/after_a_lifetime_of_involvement_in_male_dominated/?utm_source=reddit-android

I saw this story and I was like wow. You've managed to be in an manly environment and not feel demeaned until NOW?

I regularly have stupid things said to me in my sport or listen to the women at work say sexist bullshit

Ditto when I was at uni.

There was this one awful sow I could write a whole article about. :P

Bearing in mind that all the people at my work are above me bar one guy who started Monday

Guys being raped by women is an obvious one.

Yep, that's a big one.

@Men Are Human Actually, I did end up finding something useful in the Norway Study

"Overall, conditional on the high-stakes central exit exams, boys outperform girls on the low-stakes national one-day tests. Thus, the hypothesis that girls perform relatively worse when stakes are high is not supported." -- This is relevant to some of the studies (like the Israel and France studies) that have different tests they use for the anonymized and non-anonymized grading

Oh, for those who don't have the link: http://folk.ntnu.no/torbergf/Articles/Gender%20and%20achievement.pdf

You are really putting a lot of thought into this and I really appreciate it @asparkofpyrokravte

New Article: https://menarehuman.com/sexism-vs-boys-part-1/

Oh yeah, I saw a couple of those reddit posts

That really is rather worriying

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Urk. that telegraph article is basically just a teaser for this: http://www.menandboyscoalition.org.uk/conference/

but I can't find any information on what Cook says in the conference

sigh

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Alright, so I've got more or less all the material I want for the education article

However, it is in need of being made somewhat more coherent, with a clear beginning and a clear goal. Mostly I've just written so as to cover the major points of boys' education issues as they relate to the school system, the things the school system has done about those issues, and a bit about the opposition to those issues and how those issues should be approached. When I put it like that it sounds cohesive

But it isn't yet

Draft 1

Hey, it worked

So that's relatively just plain-text-with-links

And you don't need to look at that one, I'll try to get some stuff done in the next couple days to make it more directed, but this way you (as in, anyone on discord) can see what is going on with it and comment if you like

Probably the biggest error in argument (as opposed to in form) in the document right now is where I get around to talking about US govermental education policy (pre-university policy) which I don't have a good understanding of at all.

Maybe there's someone here on the discord from the US you can ask? I think Jango is from the states. Alternatively, I'm sure posting a Reddit topic requesting some insight would get some replies

I only really skimmed it, I'm 4 drinks in and will probably have a better look in the morning (didn't look at any of the links, lol), but I do get it, also I think I may have been missing a page at the front or did you just not really write an introduction? I can defiantly understand though, in highschool I was in the lowest English class and I was the only girl that was there, and I have a learning disability which made school horrible, teachers just cannot expect every student to be able to retain blocks of information on a board, my ADHD gave me trouble with english and my boyfriend who is Autistic had a similar problem with Math, he got really fucked by it too because people always assume that Autism means you are really good with math and science where he just isn't, he likes writing and he has lost jobs over people not being able to take him seriously, it makes me so angry.