Message from @asparkofpyrokravte

Discord ID: 528026011468562452

2018-12-28 01:21:54 UTC  

right, the source is so questionablr

2018-12-28 01:21:58 UTC  

That and identifying something as "rape" contrary to the victim's perception

2018-12-28 01:28:18 UTC  

At 23:25 Crouch says " It's how they put the questions together. Do you realize a lot of the women in that study [the MS Magazine study] who said they had been raped
went back to live either date the man that supposedly raped them and a lot of a
by their own admission didn't even know was rape"

And actually just slightly before that at 22:56 he says in that video: "There's a big difference between an unscientific one unscientific study from
MS magazine in almost 2,500 academic papers and research studies from social
scientists there's a big difference and if you were to put them on a scale
which way which way do you think that scale would weight?". Cassie responds "Well they probably had scientists doing it" to which Crouch retorts "Actually they didn't, go back and look at the research."

2018-12-28 01:28:19 UTC  


2018-12-28 01:28:43 UTC  

That sort of methodology has been used in a bunch of actual studies though

2018-12-28 01:28:53 UTC  

so you have to check for that sort of thing

2018-12-28 01:31:06 UTC  


2018-12-28 01:31:08 UTC  

But on to actual sources, lets see if I can find something credible

2018-12-28 01:37:16 UTC  

I’ve heard in America according to FBI America it is 1 in 1900

2018-12-28 01:44:22 UTC  

According to self-reported victim data from the 2004 GSS on Victimization,
approximately 512,200 Canadians aged 15 and older were the victims of a sexual
assault in the 12 months preceding the survey. Expressed as a rate, there were
1, 977 incidents of sexual assault per 100,000 population aged 15 and older
reported on the 2004 GSS; a rate not statistically different from that of the
1999 GSS (2,058 per 100,000 population).

2018-12-28 01:44:41 UTC  

It is worth noting that is yearly data

2018-12-28 01:44:46 UTC  

not lifetime data

2018-12-28 01:45:14 UTC  

Because Canada doesn't have as much statistics research as the US, I find it unlikely that good lifetime data even exists for sexual assault or rape

2018-12-28 01:45:53 UTC  


2018-12-28 01:45:59 UTC  

Other important notes from that article:

2018-12-28 01:46:00 UTC  

The majority of sexual offences in Canada are of a
less severe nature. Victimization data indicate that
most sexual assaults involved unwanted sexual
touching (81%) rather than more severe sexual
attacks (19%). Among the incidents that came to t
he attention of police in 2007, the large majority
(86%) were level 1, the least se
rious form of sexual assault.
The 2004 GSS showed that sexual victimization ra
tes were dramatically higher among those aged 15
to 24, compared to those 55 and over. Additionally, ov
er half of the sexual assault victims reported to
police in 2007 were children and youth under the age of 18.
When asked why they did not tell the police about the
sexual assault, a majority of victims (58%) said
that they did not report the incident because it was not important enough.

2018-12-28 01:46:15 UTC  


2018-12-28 01:46:32 UTC  

Unfortunately the best I can come up with as a statistic is to extrapolate from those numbers

2018-12-28 01:46:44 UTC  

Anything more concrete I have would only be from police data

2018-12-28 01:46:51 UTC  

which just isn't what we're looking for

2018-12-28 01:47:52 UTC  

So what I'd suggest is 20% of that 2 in 100 yearly sexual assault are of a severe nature beyond touching

2018-12-28 01:48:56 UTC  

And that the yearly number should be multiplied by ~15 or so to get a lifetime rate since it drops off by age

2018-12-28 01:49:25 UTC  

which leaves us at 1 in 20 or so

2018-12-28 01:49:53 UTC  


2018-12-28 01:50:18 UTC  

But that has quite the error margin since it is more back of napkin stuff than anything scientific. And my assumption that I use to jump from yearly to lifetime is woefully poor.

2018-12-28 01:50:40 UTC  

But as far as I can tell, lifetime data in Canada is simply not available

2018-12-28 01:51:01 UTC  

At least for stuff that isn't based on police reports

2018-12-28 01:51:21 UTC  

I think that teacher's claim is quite extraordinary

2019-01-01 14:01:58 UTC  

@everyone we have a new Men Are Human Article!

2019-01-03 12:49:42 UTC  

Site has been slightly redesigned. Sorry for any hassles with it. You can't really redo a site like this offline.

2019-01-03 15:49:44 UTC  

Excellent article and content nonetheless.

2019-01-03 17:45:22 UTC  

Thanks a lot.

2019-01-03 17:46:07 UTC  

If you have a story or an article of your own, let me know. It can be in private, if you prefer to be anonymous. I don't mind.

2019-01-04 07:02:25 UTC  

I've always liked the one on our subreddit, Short and sweet, gets the message across, easy to draw,

2019-01-04 08:17:43 UTC  

@goodmod It is quite good, and has some recognition already. Maybe we should use it. Personally I wanted to get the female symbol involved too, but maybe we can draw it as a tail?

2019-01-04 08:17:49 UTC  


2019-01-04 08:19:07 UTC  

But without the extra arrow

2019-01-04 08:20:02 UTC  

Personally I'm not a fan of using the female symbol. Whereas we don't oppose *actual* rights for women (not privileges), we don't advocate for them either