Message from @Men Are Human

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2018-12-20 03:31:01 UTC  

Operation Canadian BaCon to complain to the CRTC about the CBC's biased coverage before the broadcasting license renewal next year: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/a6wlgk/happening_operation_canadian_bacon_ii_gamergate/

2018-12-20 09:12:50 UTC  

@Jonathan You should make a version for our own sub

2018-12-21 14:21:34 UTC  

@goodmod @Men Are Human @asparkofpyrokravte @Abbysol @blueorange22 I've been thinking about something today, largely about how activism is conducted.

There are places we can write to or call, contact in some way which do things we don't like (eg. A place that performs infant circumcision) to impress upon them why we think what they are doing with good, logical arguments.

But with that comes those users who, when we call for such activism, will write and call them with angry furvour, insulting and putting people off rather than trying to persuade people, this painting the MRM in a bad light and potentially alienating those from supporting our values.

How do we get around this in our activism efforts?

2018-12-21 14:22:55 UTC  

well whenever we post something here or on reddit, make sure we have a note saying this. like i imagine if we launch a specific effort to call an organization we'd make a reddit post about it, make sure that is highlighted.

2018-12-21 14:25:54 UTC  

I don't think we can post things like that on the Reddit, the admins would hear about it if it became an issue and they'd shut the sub down

2018-12-21 14:26:52 UTC  

really? i think they'd be ok with that, @goodmod is an mod there. they seem pretty open minded

2018-12-21 14:27:21 UTC  

do you mean something like calling representatives or organizations when theres a relevant news story?

2018-12-21 14:28:43 UTC  

No, in the example it was the actual place performing the male genital mutilation, I guess it's unique to some other issues in that there are direct places to contact other than legislators and representatives

2018-12-21 14:30:00 UTC  

i see. yeah, we definitely cant be seen as doing anything that can construed as harassment or trolling. and people have leigitmate cause to be upset, but it has to be controlled

2018-12-21 14:30:06 UTC  

I've thought about writing campaigns.

2018-12-21 14:30:32 UTC  

Another similar example would be say there's a daytime tv show that says some pretty horrendous things about men and you call that tv shows office

2018-12-21 14:30:42 UTC  

Did I tell you guys we got an article taken down?

2018-12-21 14:31:00 UTC  

From menarehuman.com or from Reddit?

2018-12-21 14:31:04 UTC  

@InsaneCaterpilla that's a good idea bte

2018-12-21 14:31:41 UTC  

Men are human did a response article, and I think it caused a brigade on the thing we targeted

2018-12-21 14:31:56 UTC  

Article i was responding to is gone

2018-12-21 14:32:21 UTC  

And it was an old article that they'd likely forgoten about

2018-12-21 14:32:35 UTC  

It was the one about DV shelters

2018-12-21 14:33:07 UTC  

I can't say for sure it was us, but it likely got someone to email them

2018-12-21 14:34:32 UTC  

The article we did got a few shares

2018-12-21 14:34:48 UTC  

Who knows! Maybe we made an impact. XD

2018-12-21 14:35:29 UTC  

wiat, what???? how did it get removed? who removed it????

2018-12-21 14:36:01 UTC  

ohh

2018-12-21 14:36:02 UTC  

i see

2018-12-21 14:36:11 UTC  

This one

2018-12-21 14:36:14 UTC  

you mean the article you responded to was gone

2018-12-21 14:36:22 UTC  

not that our site was somehow messed with

2018-12-21 14:36:27 UTC  

Yep! Article is flat out gone

2018-12-21 14:36:35 UTC  

The one I responded to!

2018-12-21 14:36:39 UTC  

doesnt surprise me. thats why we have to save everything with archive.is

2018-12-21 14:36:47 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-21 14:37:04 UTC  

they tried that with me to for that alimony reform in florida, that 72 year old with alzheimesr

2018-12-21 14:37:23 UTC  

just goes to show how well coordinated/capable they are

2018-12-21 14:37:34 UTC  

I was hoping this would happen, but there's no way to know it was specifically a brigade we caused

2018-12-21 14:37:48 UTC  

and that they can never be trusted to operate in good faith. they will ALWAYS lie and cheat to the end

2018-12-21 14:37:55 UTC  

@blueorange22 Oh? Go on?

2018-12-21 14:38:01 UTC  

What did you do?

2018-12-21 14:39:01 UTC  

This used to have a usatoday article: