Message from @AGreenTejada
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"the struggles faced by different groups of the same gender are different, so different solutions may be required". So, this happened in the worker's movement. Their answer was to focus on the problems that were shared first, but then also to **identify with** each others problems as their own even if they didn't have that exact problem. Their answer was *Solidarity*.
Sure intersectionality describes a real thing, but intersectional politics is ass-backwards, with as a concept "you can't identify with my problems because they are not your own".
The intersectional approach is fundamentally hostile to unity, and that isn't just a symptom of oppression olympics.
@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS can we continue that meme thread here?
BTW, who is chanty... Big Red?
Yes
She gives me an 'autistic' vibe. I think she is mentally ill withstand a side of extreme anxiety.
So who wants to debate the debating stuff?
Debate what?
How about this
Eh, not sure how to conduct a debate about that xD
Debate about what implications that observation has for society.
For starters I would disagree with the premise as I have seen women do that.
I'm against debates. Objections? :D
But even if it's "more true" what does it mean
@Men Are Human depends if I'm losing
Lol
Ok an actual topic with defined sides!
WOMEN HAVE IT WORSE
MAN HAVE IT WORSE
Haha sorry about the caps I was just trying to have a formatted obvious title
Oh no lol, trying to parody this
TRUE DEBATE
Truly intellectual
Man have many woes.
I feel derailed
New topic with a less divisive start
"should the drop in men's entry to university be corrected by affirmative action"
oh interesting
No
Affirmative action is an incredibly blunt instrument to correct systemic discrimination. Much of the drop to men's entry into university is the result of men's choices and is not systemic. Even the parts that are systemic tend not to properly fall under the definition of discrimination per se.
no, affirmative action should not exist, if you want to focus certain demographics you should encourage them in other ways, focusing programs in disadvantaged areas
Moreover, increasing men's entry into university would not be, on the whole, beneficial to men. The debt burden is a real issue with university education, and jobs gained via university training tend to be higher stress and lower life satisfaction
This effect would tend to be worse for people who don't naturally qualify for the slot
A more productive solution to the university gap would be gender focused literacy programs in elementary and high school, as well as other accommodations in elementary and high school designed to reward and benefit boys -- though this will likely never solve the gap in its entirety.
Not that solving the gap in its entirety should ever be a goal unto itself
Nope. Affirmative Action is partly how we got in this mess