I dunno. The duluth model is not the be all and end all of feminist theory, despite what so many think

Check the wiki. You'll find the instances of the uses of patriarchy theory

Which wiki?

It's a feminist formulation

Any wiki

How about Geek Feminism's wiki?

"the system of gender-based hierarchy in society which assigns most power to men, and assigns higher value to men, maleness, and "masculine traits"."

Fits pretty well with most gender theories

(note how men's issues is not included in the higher value list)

This definition is reductionist as the rest

Power is not limited to the male gender

"most"

Male power occurred due to a variety of reasons

One being, they were liable to fight, protect and die for the tribe

Ding ding ding

That's the price of power

Aye, it is

>Ding ding ding

Is that the menslib way or the chapo way

chapo?

And no, it has nothing to do with any affiliation to any group

Feminism is defined as the 'advocacy for women's rights on the basis of equality'

This in itself assumes that equality will be attained if *women are raised to men*.
The word feminism in itself assumes that men have no problems.

That is the worst interpretation I have ever seen \

it doesn't assume anything like that

Equality will not be attained if you just advocate for women's rights

It's the dictionary definition of feminism

And feminism has no monopoly over the narrative

That's why mrm is here

Feminism started off as working at one issue, and has grown from there.

great, the MRM is here, to work ALONGSIDE feminism

that would be a help

But no, the two movements clash against each other non-stop

If they are Antagonistic, we can do nothing with them

At this point, a feminist has just said the same thing

They must first remove all the sexist laws they have made

Mrm hadn't made any such laws

yet

And they need to get off their moral high horse that they are for equality and done anything worthwhile for it.

They'll all talk about how they are teaching men to cry.

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS coming back to patriarchy theory.

The system cannot be called patriarchy it doesn't always caters to men at the cost of women.

It's a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy

The feminist lie is that
1)patriarchy as a system caters to men at the cost of women
2)denying or minimizing the power of women, or the matriarchal power.