Oh, so they are credible then?

If Wikipedia the Wise says so

I'm telling you what they think of patriatchy

And I don't really give a flying fuck now do I

Jaggar, Young, and Hartmann are among the feminist theorists who argue that the system of patriarchy should be completely overturned, especially the heteropatriarchal family, which they see as a necessary component of female oppression.

Good for them

Again, I don't care

We do care.. That's why we don't work with feminists

Yes, because all of feminism worships those specific three people that I think have not been heard of by the majority of feminists

Almost all feminists qualifies patriarchy to the structure of female oppression by men.

Are you denying that

That is a vast oversimplification

Those feminist beliefs are an even greater oversimplification

🙄

Tell me, what do you think of Warren Farrell?

That's why he's no longer a feminist huh

What?

No

Tell me what you think of Warren Farrell

What do I need to think of him

I want to know your opinion about him

Come on, say what you may

“Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape.”.Ignoring that there is a male version of date rape called date rape, which is already misandrist and screwed up, that’s a direct equivalence. It feels nothing, at all, like date rape.

Farrell is the MRA equivalent of most mainstream feminists

Yes

And He hadn't made women the oppressor class as does feminists

And formulated the 'matriarchy theory'

I have never met a feminist who has made anyone an oppressor class

@Indigo "And the oppressed class use 80% of the total money of the world." This is bullshit. The actual claim is "Women actually control 80% of household spending" according to realsexism.com

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS Saying most feminists don't talk in terms of patriarchy (or an equivalent oppression narrative) is ignoring every feminist thinker since 1900, including Bell Hooks and Freidan.

I did not say that "most feminists don't talk in terms of patriarchy"

my apologies, allow me to correct

"patriarchy is not a system of oppression"

is ignoring every feminist thinker since 1900...

And feminists believe it is

Oppression by the system. Not oppression through the system

and you know what I just realised?

I have been argued into defending patriarchy theory

Right, you were originally saying it was a secondary element

And then trying to get a definition

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS you were not argued into defending it, its what you clearly set out to do

@InsaneCaterpilla bullshit