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The system ceases to be a patriarchy then
The system is a mix of male and female power
How does it cease to be a patriarchy?
Because the system is not a binary of female powerlessness and male power.
The feminists are the ones who deny or minimize female power in that system.
If the system is called a patriarchy, then it can be called a matriarchy too.
Actually the system is a mix of patriarchy and matriarchy.
The female is not the oppressed class either, in many respects
Do you know what the word "most" means?
it is not a binary, i tell you that
How do you quantify oppression
And power
Statistics
I'll give you statistics of male powerlessness and oppression too
Save it mate, I have heard it thousands of times
like 3 in 4 homeless being men
and 9 in 10 roofless
That's why I said, calling the system patriarchy is disingenuous
how so?
Women do have power, and the patriarchal power doesn't cater to men
both things the GFW does not deny
And also power to men had come at cost higher than that of women
So, it's not a system created for oppression
Of women
I will quote the wiki and you'll see what feminist formulations of patriarchy are
no it is not
Feminist theorists have written extensively about patriarchy either as a primary cause of women's oppression, or as part of an interactive system. Shulamith Firestone, a radical-libertarian feminist, defines patriarchy as a system of oppression of women. Firestone believes that patriarchy is caused by the biological inequalities between women and men, e.g. that women bear children, while men do not. Firestone writes that patriarchal ideologies support the oppression of women and gives as an example the joy of giving birth, which she labels a patriarchal myth. For Firestone, women must gain control over reproduction in order to be free from oppression.[23] Feminist historian Gerda Lerner believes that male control over women's sexuality and reproductive functions is a fundamental cause and result of patriarchy.[27] Alison Jaggar also understands patriarchy as the primary cause of women's oppression. The system of patriarchy accomplishes this by alienating women from their bodies
Interactive systems theorists Iris Marion Young and Heidi Hartmann believe that patriarchy and capitalism interact together to oppress women.
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Audre Lorde, an African American feminist writer and theorist, believed that racism and patriarchy were intertwined systems of oppression.[51]
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Gerda Lerner, in her 1986 The Creation of Patriarchy, makes a series of arguments about the origins and reproduction of patriarchy as a system of oppression of women, and concludes that patriarchy is socially constructed and seen as natural and invisible.[27]
@pc, feminists think otherwise
You quoted individuals
They are feminists
So they are
And some of the most prominent ones
funny that
Are they?
Quoted in Wikipedia
Oh, so they are credible then?
If Wikipedia the Wise says so
I'm telling you what they think of patriatchy
And I don't really give a flying fuck now do I
Jaggar, Young, and Hartmann are among the feminist theorists who argue that the system of patriarchy should be completely overturned, especially the heteropatriarchal family, which they see as a necessary component of female oppression.