Tell me what you think of Warren Farrell

What do I need to think of him

I want to know your opinion about him

Come on, say what you may

“Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape.”.Ignoring that there is a male version of date rape called date rape, which is already misandrist and screwed up, that’s a direct equivalence. It feels nothing, at all, like date rape.

Farrell is the MRA equivalent of most mainstream feminists

Yes

And He hadn't made women the oppressor class as does feminists

And formulated the 'matriarchy theory'

I have never met a feminist who has made anyone an oppressor class

@Indigo "And the oppressed class use 80% of the total money of the world." This is bullshit. The actual claim is "Women actually control 80% of household spending" according to realsexism.com

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS Saying most feminists don't talk in terms of patriarchy (or an equivalent oppression narrative) is ignoring every feminist thinker since 1900, including Bell Hooks and Freidan.

I did not say that "most feminists don't talk in terms of patriarchy"

my apologies, allow me to correct

"patriarchy is not a system of oppression"

is ignoring every feminist thinker since 1900...

And feminists believe it is

Oppression by the system. Not oppression through the system

and you know what I just realised?

I have been argued into defending patriarchy theory

Right, you were originally saying it was a secondary element

And then trying to get a definition

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS you were not argued into defending it, its what you clearly set out to do

@InsaneCaterpilla bullshit

I'm not so sure Caterpilla

He was trying to defend feminism against accusations of bigotry on account of patriarchy theory

It sure seems that way to me, so 'bullshit' all you want, I'm not gonna think contrary to how it appears

at least, that's how I read it

Oh definitely, but in doing so he was refining patriarchy to meet his own narrative

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS was set out to limit patriarchy theory to just the rule of men and to remove the patriarchy is the cause of female oppression part

not really, i was using the Geek Feminism Wiki definition

As opposed to almost every feminist thinker

Well now we get to stop guessing at what Sick was trying to say and hear him say it 😉

@Indigo yes, the most prominent feminist wiki lists ideas opposed to almost every feminist thinker

riiiight

Hence There's a difference between what feminists claim to do and what actually they do

Because of course that is what *you* would get out of it

@PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS yup, not like any ideology has ever had a disconnect between what they say they do and what they actually do before, right?

I'm not following this

You're saying that the Geek Feminism definition says that patriarchy theory is not a concept of oppression?

I think that's very hard to agree on

"the system of gender-based hierarchy in society which assigns most power to men, and assigns higher value to men, maleness, and "masculine traits"