@basedgringo WHo are you responding to?

I find the whole thing hilarious

I was responding to @Rockstar

@Mush I think the dating thing is somewhat hilarious. The way women rate men make high value guys have a surplus of options. They think they can capture one of them with the new Tinder dating market. In reality those guys won't settle.

The vast majority of women I know repeatedly make the same mistakes and wonder why they're 40 and childless.

On one hand it's kind of funny, on the other hand it's sad to think about what it's doing to average young men

Definitely

All the time there's a story about some young guy who just couldn't take the feeling of being unwanted anymore and decided to lash out, either against others or himself

I'm not an incel by any means, I've had a fair few relationships, but I see the frustration and understand

Especially with dating sites, the chance of a man getting a reply to an initial message is only about 4%

What are regular guys supposed to do when they have almost no value in the "sexual marketplace" aside from occasionally providing a free meal?

Maybe society should lie to them and tell them there's 72 virgins if they die in war.

Then you can have the state pay for babies outside of wedlock so that the high value men can have lots of kids.

It's amazing to me how many men don't understand what's going on -- although the whole "beta-male" thing seems to start to be understood by guys that are basically incels

But it was obvious as day to me in high school and college. I gained 40 lbs of muscle, and got my underbite fixed. The difference in how you're treated across the board by society is astounding

Everyone treats you better, not just women.

But ultimately it doesn't matter, most people aren't worth having a committed relationship with (both men and women). Something like 70% of men and women cheat and branch swing.

What's the point of trying to acquire assets with someone who's going to destroy it all in a divorce?

Yeah, I've been a victim of "trading up" one too many times and am effectively done with dating

Yeah, and by no means is it just women.

I think financial abortions would fix a large amount of this nonsense.

And older women being honest with younger women.

A fair number are coming clean.

Older men are generally honest with younger men -- although I know plenty of white knights who are so stupid that they thing they're the exception to how most men treat women.

(I still treat women with kindness and respect even though I know what's going on.)

Sadly I can't imagine financial abortion legislation would ever pass. Hell, in 2016 a bill was signed that would make women have to register for the draft, and feminists autism'd it into non-existence

Probably not

What gets me is the fact that human sexual behavior is so predicatble en masse, but people have all kinds of rationalizations for their behaviors.

"I'm doing this because he wasn't attentive enough blah blah." No you're doing that because of deep seated animalistic needs that you're unwilling to confront because you have no sense of values anymore.

For the most part yeah, infidelity is too high across the board

I've always seen people say that humans aren't meant for pair-bonding for life but I don't want to believe that, I want to believe that people can still be happy in a monogamous relationship for 60 years or whatever

The idea of a successful 2 person relationship went right down the drain with the values of previous society, it seems

People who say that are the ones who believe the feminist attempts to distroy the family, which have been ongoing from the Second Wave.

Humans dobond for life, if society is set up for it and isn't undermining it.

Society is cyclic. With the resurgence of STDs I think the next generation will think twice.

Condoms are not nearly as effective as they are advertised to be.

It's already being shown that Gen Z is far more conservative than millennials

Know of several women who got chlamydia and gonorrhea with a condom. HPV and herpes are easily transmissable with a condom (although there will soon be a vaccine for HSV.) Chlamydia and gonorrhea have drug resistant forms that are spreading now.

HIV also has several drug resistant strains now. Thankfully this is the one thing condoms tend to protect against.

It makes sense, even with a condom there's almost always going to be some contact with some kind of bodily fluid

My parents have been married for over 50 years now, and still going strong.

@goodmod I'm glad to hear it. :)