And I felt all this guilt but it was a weird situation I didn't want to jump in and demanded task because that ruins through kids relationship with his dad

Demanding tests *

He made me feel a lot better about that by pointing out that she was the one who would know whether or not I was the dad

And that i had no way of knowing

He also made me feel a lot better about dropping out of high school

Basically there was no way in could have finished with all of the violence and shit at home every night

But you're right a lot of them are useless

I saw this one guy for I don't know 7 or 8 sessions

They were all pretty much useless

Well who knows if your diagnosis is even write

Inpatient places are much better at diagnosing people because they observe you around-the-clock

Not just for one hour week

What's your diagnosis if you don't mind my asking?

Yeah that could be a tough one to deal with when

May I ask how long you've had that diagnosis?

Well good luck man. I doubt I could say anything to help.

Huh. I guess they deleted their own messages?

Weird.

Yeah

Saw this and thought it looked interesting. Seems like violence against men is totally okay!

reddit /u/Zamop posted a new link in /r/MensRights
Australia to ban people who are convicted of violence against women and children. - https://redd.it/aws53i

https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d414f3159444d33457a6333566d54/index.html

It's fairly typical that violence against men isn't seen to be as damaging as violence against women. Sadly, it's much harder to convict women of the domestic violence they commit, and some innocent male victims will be included in this ban because of the inability to see women as abusers. It is 100% unacceptable to be basing policy on sexism.

Yep.

Yeah. I've just been looking through a potential article about this for Men Are Human that goes through some classic male experiences with DV hotlines. E.g. - "They just laughed and hung up the phone" and "they said I was trying to manipulate them to cover up my own abuse of her..."

There have definitely been some research done into that.. I recall seeing a pic of something along the lines of 'out of those 10, 4/10 would treat him as the abuser, 3/10 would laugh at him. 3 would help'. Something like that

Yeah it was in the news, though Gen thinks it's bad to go with these self-reported things. Some men really are abusers, after all.

Eh, I don't think some men being abusers should be a factor at all when a man calls a line aimed at helping victims of domestic violence. Pointing out they wouldn't help them doesn't say that there aren't abusive men at all

I can understand the reliability of the self reporting to be an issue. But not because of that

Oh, they just meant with the studies not the phone lines. Personally, I think that only really obvious frauds should get turned away from those lines.

I think it should be treated the same way as a suicide hotline. Sure, someone might be playing it up or 'trolling' so to speak, but it's not worth taking the chance about

And to turn away callers or assume they are being disingenuous just because they are men trying to get help is severely disturbing

It is very much so

Anyone wanna join in the voice chat?

I wanna talk about men's rights and mgtow.

Ah, I have work soon @James kirk , but if more people want to get in on this maybe we could make it a regular scheduled thing?

I'm happy to make the voice chat more prominent on the Discord if people would like too.

I have work soon too

I've moved the voice channel up into the main area so it's more convenient. Hopefully we can get some good stuff going. If anyone wants to invite people to talk on the voice chat or in the Discord generally - please do!

how many people have been on the voice chat? i haevnt turned itr on ywet

Am i right here?