Message from @Uberduperdrew

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2019-03-14 11:47:04 UTC  

neither is Basic Income

2019-03-14 11:47:12 UTC  

It has everything to do with the low amount they pay people

2019-03-14 11:47:20 UTC  

1000 a month is not a living wage, its not even half a living wage is most places

2019-03-14 11:47:39 UTC  

1000 a month is not even a rent check in my state

2019-03-14 11:47:42 UTC  

So you are saying that in a world where everything is automated it would be impossible for the human population to have all of their basic needs automatically provided for?

2019-03-14 11:47:55 UTC  

Yes that's my point

2019-03-14 11:48:04 UTC  

plus I imagine Basic Income will work very much like EBT

2019-03-14 11:48:06 UTC  

In specific situation you described where everything is automated then nobody has jobs

2019-03-14 11:48:08 UTC  

where its not ACTUAL money

2019-03-14 11:48:16 UTC  

its more like an expense account

2019-03-14 11:48:18 UTC  

Ok so....what happens when all the jobs are automated?

2019-03-14 11:48:23 UTC  

Genocide?

2019-03-14 11:48:28 UTC  

Mass starvation?

2019-03-14 11:48:29 UTC  

They're never all going to be automated

2019-03-14 11:48:36 UTC  

Somebody has to keep the machines running

2019-03-14 11:48:53 UTC  

automation rates are expected to remove over 40% of the workforce in the next 60 years

2019-03-14 11:48:58 UTC  

thats pretty signifigant

2019-03-14 11:49:09 UTC  

The same thing happened during the industrial revolution

2019-03-14 11:49:12 UTC  

You think we can't create sentient AI with intelligence that matches or surpasses human intelligence?

2019-03-14 11:49:16 UTC  

The same thing happened with computers

2019-03-14 11:49:28 UTC  

A bunch of people lost their jobs and then people got jobs in New fields

2019-03-14 11:49:41 UTC  

It was a terrible situation for the people lost their jobs for sure but all of the jobs didn't go away

2019-03-14 11:49:45 UTC  

"The factory of the future will have two employees. A Man, and his dog. The Man will be there to take care of the dog, the dog will be there to insure the Man doesn't touch the machines."

2019-03-14 11:50:41 UTC  

Look I'm not totally against welfare

2019-03-14 11:50:54 UTC  

I would like to see a situation where everybody has a warm place to sleep and a place to shower and use the bathroom

2019-03-14 11:51:21 UTC  

But I'm against them having cellphones TVs

2019-03-14 11:51:26 UTC  

Cable

2019-03-14 11:52:02 UTC  

I just think Basic Income is an idea whose time has come

2019-03-14 11:52:11 UTC  

meaning we'll see a form of it deployed whether we want to or not

2019-03-14 11:52:27 UTC  

I'm not heartless I want people to be taken care of

2019-03-14 11:52:27 UTC  

and we'll have to see what kind of impact it has, if its repealed or if it becomes our new truth

2019-03-14 11:52:35 UTC  

not saying that

2019-03-14 11:52:45 UTC  

I don't know man a lot of people become callous and unsympathetic to people who don't work

2019-03-14 11:52:57 UTC  

I don't actually expect Basic Income will be a deciding factor in the upcoming Presidential run

2019-03-14 11:52:58 UTC  

I just can't see lawmakers passing something like that

2019-03-14 11:53:01 UTC  

its too young, too unproven

2019-03-14 11:53:14 UTC  

and americans are too tight on their finances

2019-03-14 11:53:16 UTC  

I don't think there's enough support for the idea

2019-03-14 11:53:29 UTC  

but its something we'll see talked about more and more

2019-03-14 11:53:29 UTC  

Nobody wants a massive tax like to pay for this

2019-03-14 11:53:46 UTC  

i'd actually agree that it's not going to happen in 2020