That said feminism is an extreme ideology, and I think it's directors knows what it's doing

Are you saying ideology is a form of religion?

Religion is much more complicated than simply being a group of people to talk

1. Modern progressivism and 4th wave feminism are indistinguishable.
2. Modern progressivism is an organic religion that fills in the space left by denying religion itself.

What we are talking about here is world views, and people who hold them

No, it is not simply a worldview

Ideology is something that can supplant religion, and I agree that feminism is doing so

But that doesn't make it a religion

Holding a worldview doesn't make you flip on out people who disagree with you.

Neither does having a religion

Patriarchy is the new name for the devil.

Flipping out isn't unique to religion either

Actually, Patriarchy is the new name for black men

They really just expanded it to all men and removed black women. It functions the same way

You could add there are elements of conspiracy theory, but they started off by saying ruling structures are patriarchy

I didn't explain that well, lol

Basically - patriarchy theory is the root of toxic masculinity

Progressive politics function *exactly* like a cult, and have all the defining characteristics.

*INCLUDING* shunning.

Not exactly like one

But the militants do have a degree of similarity

They lack the core figure

WHat is the "core figure" to you?

I agree they are a lot like other secular cults.

Well, Stalin. Basically. Or that guy who ran Scientology

They are not "a lot like," they *are* a cult.

If you want to argue they're not, you need to give a list of things that differentiate the two.

I'm not disagreeing with you

I'm basically saying that there is a secular cult, and then there's a lot of people who think they are in it but really aren't

You could call them first circle initiates if you want. But for me, it's a little too lose to call the whole movement a cult

Rad fem definitely is a secular cult - no doubt about that.

But, as I said, they are an ideology - not a religion.

Sorry if this is coming out a bit disjointed, I'm very tired and and I still have a lot of work to do tonight

I should really pick this up later, but I think comparing them to racists is a good strategy.

I mean yeah, if you target-swap anti-male statements of course it's going to sound closer to racism

There are a number of reasons I see it closer to religion

Feminism is basically a base set of ideals but the individuals are able to interpret and apply those ideals as they see fit, same deal with religion, there's no real consistency from individual to individual

In religion, if you denounce (insert religion's god here) you are to be damned for all eternity. When it comes to feminism, if you denounce their ideals, you might as well be damned

Comparing it to racism is a very good way to point out particular instances of man-hate

But I've never seen a racist be able to excuse themselves by saying "I'm not against black people, I'm just pro white"

("I'm not against men, I'm just pro women")