Message from @Men Are Human

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2019-02-01 14:34:49 UTC  

it was the end of a really stressful month and I just couldn't handle such an obvious male issue being co-opted by the feminist movement

2019-02-01 14:35:22 UTC  

for several weeks I kept getting worried phone calls from them because they are all super worried I'm going to join a Nazi movement

2019-02-01 14:35:29 UTC  

because thats what anti-feminism is to them

2019-02-01 14:36:35 UTC  

I would guess their support would consist of therapy and learning how to be a good man and being ok with yourself while fighting against the patriarchy and the atrocities of your gender, and learning that its ok to be told you are trash because it's a good thing

2019-02-01 14:37:10 UTC  

If you think the dictionary definition of feminism is crazy, you should see what happens when you start calling feminism out - even indirectly - on the definitions of these kinds of words.

2019-02-01 14:42:28 UTC  

Wasn't sure about posting this, but basically the last time I brought this up - holy crap!

2019-02-01 14:43:06 UTC  
2019-02-01 14:52:56 UTC  

Will feminists support changing it? Nope

2019-02-01 15:24:25 UTC  

The npc meme was sent by allah himself to be the perfect definition of these people. "no one cares about men being kidnapped" "well it was men that kidnapped them"... What.

2019-02-01 15:45:30 UTC  

they just make up "sexism is power + prejudice" as a derailing tactic to shut dowsn debate. but it doesnt really mean anything

2019-02-01 15:45:42 UTC  

its not based on anything real, its just a word salad they invented from nothing

2019-02-01 16:05:26 UTC  

Oh yeah

2019-02-01 16:05:32 UTC  

They do the same with racism

2019-02-01 16:06:34 UTC  

So, basically, the guy who works at a shop near me who refuses to serve white people - he's not a racist.

2019-02-01 16:06:44 UTC  

Not according to their definition, anyway

2019-02-01 16:07:25 UTC  

Was that person black might I ask?

2019-02-01 16:07:29 UTC  

This logic is actually more poisonous than it sounds because all the racists have to do is point out that they aren't in power....

2019-02-01 16:07:42 UTC  

@Akona I couldn't tell you one way or the other

2019-02-01 16:08:06 UTC  

I know he wasn't white, but this is a friend of mine who told me about him

2019-02-01 16:08:23 UTC  

Regardless - it's still racism no matter what angle it comes from.

2019-02-01 16:08:51 UTC  

It's no more acceptable than if a white guy refuses to serve Asians, or whatever

2019-02-01 16:09:53 UTC  

Yea true. I was just gonna say that black people tend to make that claim often. As a black person you hear that stuff all the time “it’s not racist if they are white”- stuff like that

2019-02-01 16:29:03 UTC  

That sounds a lot like the same old rhetoric you get with every supremacist "It's okay when we do it!" lol

2019-02-01 16:29:33 UTC  

I'm hoping that at some point people may learn that it's never okay. Or, maybe, just stop pretending it is.

2019-02-01 16:51:21 UTC  

It’s absurd

2019-02-02 04:45:51 UTC  

Women utilize “violence” in other ways.

2019-02-02 04:46:51 UTC  

Well it's not really the same convo, but in nonreciprocal domestic violence women are the ones who perpetrate it more often, even if when men do they tend to cause greater injury. So I can see that being true

2019-02-02 05:03:13 UTC  

I think this was a good post that was fairly overlooked/missed

2019-02-02 08:24:47 UTC  

I think people can be too quick to redefine feminism, rather than recognise that many people are badly representing feminism and aren't actually feminists.

2019-02-02 08:26:12 UTC  

^

2019-02-02 08:26:17 UTC  

People are not what they say they do

2019-02-02 08:26:24 UTC  

It's what they do

2019-02-02 08:27:48 UTC  

Karen Straughans had a brilliant answer on the 'not real feminists' line of defense.

2019-02-02 08:31:07 UTC  

You cannot let feminist and feminist organizations make outrageously sexist laws and policies against men and when called out, claim that they aren't 'real feminists'

2019-02-02 08:45:03 UTC  

This is exactly what I was worried about when I told people that feminists would act like they had always been onboard with male issues to score points for their movement. They did the same thing with gay rights - after opposing them for years - and they now act like they had a big hand in securing them. Which they didn't.

2019-02-02 08:45:49 UTC  

They absolutely will co-opt our issues wherever the tide turns against them, and they will do it shamelessly.

2019-02-02 08:46:59 UTC  

And then they will continue as normal.

2019-02-02 08:47:34 UTC  

This is why it's important to smash feminist rhetoric and protest feminism itself.