Message from @InsaneCaterpilla
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Isnt there a honeybadger sub
MensLib is pretty unpopular on reddit, like in /r/AskMen for instance
It isn't really popular with feminists
and of course doens't get any traction with those who actually know how MensRights talks about stuff
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It seems more effective than it is
The reason menslib works is because the issues they talk about are things blindly drilled into people's skulls already, unfortunately the general populace doesn't hold the same opinion regarding men's issues
But what I'm saying is that menslib doesn't really work
I'm trying to think though, because a thing like MensLib only really works based on the size of feminism (and just barely at that) I feel like anything else would quickly fade into obscurity
I share Abbysol's opinion on this
The cross-section of people who could find that useful are way too small
So I can't see that sort of community working out
an ask an MRA thing could be interesting if it doesnt exist already but I feel like that would just be repetitive stupidity and trolling and baiting.
I'm almost positive there's an ask an MRA sub
And there is also FemRA
I think menslib kind of acts like a gateway to wider MRM
Menslib is where people who could be concerned about men's issues go to be brainwashed
/Looks at mens lib... da fuck is this shit? /looks for something better
Most People who come there will find where it's fault lines lie and will jump ship
I think you really have to have come across the real MRM somehow in order to jump ship from that. For instance, I found it after watching Cassie's documentary.
but since real men's issues basically aren't talked about there
And I mean it actively tries to direct attention away from them. You can search the sub for Homelessness, Divorce, Domestic Violence, or stuff and find 2-3 results from years back. Actually 3 results was for Homelessness, the most discussed topic of the three.
So you aren't going to find the MRM through that
It's deficiencies are utterly evident
Ive seen a few people post on the MRM sub that came directly from Menslib because they where so disappointed
To find menslib you really need to be looking for a men's issues sub anyway, so if you find that one instead of a real one, it's only gonna be subverting some people away. If it didnt exist they would find men's rights anyway
Some people will be convinced enough to stay on menslib and buy into their crap
And that's the thing. I'm pretty sure people don't get dissatisfied with the MensLib way of doing things without first coming across the MRM
wouldn't know though, I am banned from r/feminism
I got banned from legaladviceuk for posting in men's rights
Compare the active users of /r/MensLib to something really, really fringe like /r/Antinatalism
Not posted in feminism
we need to put efforts mainly to chip away people from Lib
@Indigo the only way to do that is not to post in the sub itself but to speak up when anyone mentions menslib outside of the sub. Not that I think its particularly worthwhile doing.
I feel like the goal is not to aim at feminists but to aim more at normal people, I feel like most people are rational but only hear one side and dont really want to have to go out of their way for anything, is why I lend out my books and The Red Pill movie so much, since anyone I have lent it too has come back with "yeah, I see your point", the problem is also trying to come across and not trying to shove it down their throats either... it's all very complicated >.<
I'm actually worried it is something that would catch on as an idea
trying to convince a feminist of anything is trying to tell water not to be wet, there is no reasoning with crazy
Oh, there is a way
You fight crazy with itself
I feel like fighting crazy with crazy will just end up with 2 lunatics screaming at each other from such a distance that they can't actually hear each other