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Which, when both sexes are presented with a more equitable need for high wages, will drive an education achievement gap, as it becomes more necessary for women
Of course, that paragraph also sounds like it believes the wage gap itself is a real issue....but the actual point it is making is more sound
You can perhaps include that as a factor, and its fine to acknowledge it, but it does detract from anti-male bias in higher education and female specific advantages such as scholarships and female only classes, as well as the bias of teachers of marking boys in even basic education, preventing them from achieving what they need to advance
Oh, this isn't for the article, just part of my research. That document in particular covers the main parts of the boys education crisis from a slightly more men-centered viewpoint than moderate feminism and in particular notes the changes made to accomodate boys in certain countries (with respect to reading achievement in particular)
That paragraph is neat for the rest of us, not for the article that focuses on education outcomes.
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Although it may be worth noting that I'm not going to mention the gender gap in post secondary achievement in the article, not so much because of that but because men are abandoning university because it is becoming less useful at securing a successful future
Whereas women seem to be less concerned about university not paving the way for a successful future -- as evidenced by taking gender studies and English degrees, for instance in greater proportions
Which is silly really, because the potential job opportunities of gender studies are... What exactly? I guess you could become part of the BBC staff. Or write yet another feminist opinion piece on how men are scum.
An english degree isn't much better. If you wanted a job, you'd get a teaching degree
Though I suppose something like Art History is easier to mock
I respect people who study English and writing techniques and such mainly because I enjoy reading so much. I'm fully aware most people who do take such classes do not end up becoming well known writers however
It isn't that English (or something *like* gender studies, were it a similar thing but not as much of a sham) isn't edifying, but that it still doesn't push you towards vocational success
Yea, I agree. I'm also pretty convinced that the reasons women and men generally choose different fields is that women simply choose what they want to do more, whereas men tend to look for something they can support themselves and their family with, even if they dont particularly enjoy it. I don't have the studies to back that up offhand
Of course, if I could get a degree simply by being in a class and writing about how great my sex is, and all my problems are the fault of the opposite sex, I'd be pretty tempted by such self indulgence.
As another research aside, The OECD PISA (something something school achievement) find really weird and interesting things
Girls in almost every country and economy tend to value
relationships more than boys, meaning that girls agree more
often than boys that they are good listeners, enjoy seeing their
classmates be successful, take into account what others are
interested in, and enjoy considering different perspectives.
•
Boys in the majority of countries and economies tend to value
teamwork more than girls, meaning that boys agree more often
than girls that they prefer working as part of a team to working
alone, find that teams make better decisions than individuals,
find that teamwork raises their own efficiency, and enjoy co-
operating with peers.
•
Advantaged students in almost every country and economy
tend to value relationships more than disadvantaged students,
while disadvantaged students in most countries and economies
tend to value teamwork more than advantaged students.
•
Girls and disadvantaged students were less likely than boys and
advantaged students to report high levels of life satisfaction.
-- random stuff from PISA 2015: https://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisa-2015-results-in-focus.pdf
The PISA 2009 study is the one that really tackles boy crisis stuff though
• There are no significant performance differences between
advantaged and disadvantaged students, or between immigrant
and non-immigrant students, after accounting for performance
in science, reading and mathematics. But girls still score 25 points higher than boys after accounting for performance in
the three core PISA subjects.
•
On average across OECD countries, the gender gap in reading
in favour of girls narrowed by 12 points between 2009 and
2015: boys’ performance improved, particularly among the
highest-achieving boys, while girls’ performance deteriorated,
particularly among the lowest-achieving girls.
That last one is interesting because the 2009 report found no improvement for the gender gap in reading between 2000 and 2009
Doesn't take a second of turning on bbc parliament to hear an MP call for a rememberance of the people killed in a NI terrorist attack which happened x number of years ago today, and of course he has to say at the end of when listing the types of people killed "and, most sadly, six were young women". Well Fuck you too.
I wish i wrote down his name, he hasn't said anything else yet
He sounds pretty awful
Moved onto a debate on the brexit deal now
This. This is perfect
For what?
To piss off feminists
Pretty amusing idea, although this is a politically diverse channel so you may find people outraged at the Republican bit!
Which one is republicans again?
I hope it's the party dedicated to doing up pubs so we can have a proper smash up
This party is one I can support
How many people here would say RAINN is a reliable source for statistics?
Please say why or why not :3
It’s hard to say, they seem unbiased but I wouldn’t know just by looking at their website
