Message from @Judas Maccabeus

Discord ID: 548974219237785601


2019-02-23 20:41:20 UTC  

We are definitely not all equal, women are presented from teaching or holding authority over men in 1 Timothy 2

2019-02-23 20:41:48 UTC  

And a woman is to submit to her husband in all things

2019-02-23 20:45:42 UTC  

Yes please use an ancient book to convey your sexist views

2019-02-23 20:47:22 UTC  

Hello

2019-02-23 21:02:37 UTC  

Implying there is something wrong with sexism

2019-02-23 21:03:43 UTC  

Sexism is against this discords rules, whether you believe there's something wrong with it or not

2019-02-23 21:04:03 UTC  

I am not actually being sexist I am just saying that the idea of sexism is not wrong

2019-02-23 21:04:21 UTC  

You are being sexist though

2019-02-23 21:04:42 UTC  

Is it sexist to say that patriarchies are natural?

2019-02-23 21:04:58 UTC  

A Woman can hold authority over men if she works hard

2019-02-23 21:05:15 UTC  

Hmm.. that is one opinion

2019-02-23 21:05:23 UTC  

But then when we read the Bible the opposite is true

2019-02-23 21:06:15 UTC  

Basically in the west anyone who does not worship women is a misogynist

2019-02-23 21:06:38 UTC  

If you believe job positions should be filled by merit rather than quota

2019-02-23 21:06:40 UTC  

Misogyny

2019-02-23 21:06:42 UTC  

Religious texts are open to interpretation of the times they were written in. Not everything in them is sound advice in today's world

2019-02-23 21:07:03 UTC  

Except the one authority who complied the biblical canon has already interpreted it

2019-02-23 21:07:09 UTC  

Why not

2019-02-23 21:07:10 UTC  

Patriarchy is not even the correct word

2019-02-23 21:07:19 UTC  

It's rather an oligarchy

2019-02-23 21:07:33 UTC  

How many women were involved in these oligarchies you speak of

2019-02-23 21:07:34 UTC  

Power resided with a miniscule percent of men

2019-02-23 21:08:02 UTC  

And women

2019-02-23 21:08:11 UTC  

If you consider queens

2019-02-23 21:08:12 UTC  

The pope refused to recognize the authority of a Byzantine empress

2019-02-23 21:08:24 UTC  

and France had laws against women ruling in their own right

2019-02-23 21:09:23 UTC  

Does it justify anything

2019-02-23 21:09:51 UTC  

It shows that these men had wisdom

2019-02-23 21:10:04 UTC  

It's not meritocracy if you

2019-02-23 21:10:15 UTC  

Knowing the dangers of a Queen

2019-02-23 21:10:36 UTC  

You cannot really call a hereditary monarchy 'meritocracy'

2019-02-23 21:10:45 UTC  

then why is one of the most prosperous periods of human history named after a Queen (The Victorian Era)

2019-02-23 21:10:59 UTC  

That is a loaded question

2019-02-23 21:11:07 UTC  

You are giving it the title of the most prosperous in history

2019-02-23 21:11:09 UTC  

and everything you've said isn't?

2019-02-23 21:11:25 UTC  

I was talking broadly about the 'wisdom' in not giving women authority over men

2019-02-23 21:11:26 UTC  

what makes it 'wisdom' to disallow any female in ruling positions?

2019-02-23 21:11:37 UTC  

Which is explicitly said in the bible

2019-02-23 21:12:24 UTC  

If a woman works for it.

2019-02-23 21:12:30 UTC  

She deserves it

2019-02-23 21:12:32 UTC  

It's not their place