Message from @Judas Maccabeus

Discord ID: 548973988140023838


2019-02-23 13:37:54 UTC  

@Judas Maccabeus Oh, I thought it looked familiar.

2019-02-23 13:43:47 UTC  

My personal thought on the image is that we should strive to be an Egalitarian movement and that both Christians and MRAs should see the image you posted as being against our mission. As Galatians 3:26 to 29 says - we are all equal.

2019-02-23 13:45:18 UTC  

In any case, I think we are in danger of starting a debate in <#512584678314606613>, so maybe we should change the subject or move it elsewhere.

2019-02-23 19:08:21 UTC  

Di d I articulate that correctly?

2019-02-23 19:29:51 UTC  

That post was pretty whiny to be honest

2019-02-23 20:40:56 UTC  

If you do not want to start a debate then do not give one quotation of scripture and claim that everything is settled

2019-02-23 20:41:20 UTC  

We are definitely not all equal, women are presented from teaching or holding authority over men in 1 Timothy 2

2019-02-23 20:41:48 UTC  

And a woman is to submit to her husband in all things

2019-02-23 20:45:42 UTC  

Yes please use an ancient book to convey your sexist views

2019-02-23 20:47:22 UTC  

Hello

2019-02-23 21:02:37 UTC  

Implying there is something wrong with sexism

2019-02-23 21:03:43 UTC  

Sexism is against this discords rules, whether you believe there's something wrong with it or not

2019-02-23 21:04:03 UTC  

I am not actually being sexist I am just saying that the idea of sexism is not wrong

2019-02-23 21:04:21 UTC  

You are being sexist though

2019-02-23 21:04:42 UTC  

Is it sexist to say that patriarchies are natural?

2019-02-23 21:04:58 UTC  

A Woman can hold authority over men if she works hard

2019-02-23 21:05:15 UTC  

Hmm.. that is one opinion

2019-02-23 21:05:23 UTC  

But then when we read the Bible the opposite is true

2019-02-23 21:06:15 UTC  

Basically in the west anyone who does not worship women is a misogynist

2019-02-23 21:06:38 UTC  

If you believe job positions should be filled by merit rather than quota

2019-02-23 21:06:40 UTC  

Misogyny

2019-02-23 21:06:42 UTC  

Religious texts are open to interpretation of the times they were written in. Not everything in them is sound advice in today's world

2019-02-23 21:07:03 UTC  

Except the one authority who complied the biblical canon has already interpreted it

2019-02-23 21:07:09 UTC  

Why not

2019-02-23 21:07:10 UTC  

Patriarchy is not even the correct word

2019-02-23 21:07:19 UTC  

It's rather an oligarchy

2019-02-23 21:07:33 UTC  

How many women were involved in these oligarchies you speak of

2019-02-23 21:07:34 UTC  

Power resided with a miniscule percent of men

2019-02-23 21:08:02 UTC  

And women

2019-02-23 21:08:11 UTC  

If you consider queens

2019-02-23 21:08:12 UTC  

The pope refused to recognize the authority of a Byzantine empress

2019-02-23 21:08:24 UTC  

and France had laws against women ruling in their own right

2019-02-23 21:09:23 UTC  

Does it justify anything

2019-02-23 21:09:51 UTC  

It shows that these men had wisdom

2019-02-23 21:10:04 UTC  

It's not meritocracy if you

2019-02-23 21:10:15 UTC  

Knowing the dangers of a Queen

2019-02-23 21:10:36 UTC  

You cannot really call a hereditary monarchy 'meritocracy'

2019-02-23 21:10:45 UTC  

then why is one of the most prosperous periods of human history named after a Queen (The Victorian Era)

2019-02-23 21:10:59 UTC  

That is a loaded question

2019-02-23 21:11:07 UTC  

You are giving it the title of the most prosperous in history