Message from @Bird Wizard

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2018-12-20 14:47:49 UTC  

Also if you're talking about alternatives to capitalism, there is like an infinite amount

2018-12-20 14:47:56 UTC  

Stop thinking so rigidly

2018-12-20 15:25:08 UTC  

Name 10

2018-12-20 15:27:47 UTC  

There is a large amount of alternatives, but a little amount of workable or sustainable ones.

2018-12-20 15:28:16 UTC  

Not to mention that change is highly improbable under the yoke of the current system.

2018-12-20 17:21:03 UTC  

I mean that people are creative, and could come up with *literally an infinite amount of economic systems*

2018-12-20 18:00:15 UTC  

I called him on bullshit and he left the server LMFAO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508381442942959616/525371874927050762/unknown.png

2018-12-20 19:10:00 UTC  

Most alternatives to capitalism still incorporate elements of it, would you agree? @Josh42A

2018-12-20 19:10:13 UTC  

Like wage labor and/or private property

2018-12-20 19:10:27 UTC  

any system with a monetary unit is capitalism

2018-12-20 19:10:45 UTC  

I would disagree

2018-12-20 19:10:50 UTC  

communism is the one alternitive because they replace money

2018-12-20 19:30:00 UTC  

@The Big Oof do you understand from a financial perspective what capital is?

2018-12-20 19:30:17 UTC  

Explain your position on this.

2018-12-20 19:30:44 UTC  

You may have a better understanding than I do, we'll see

2018-12-20 19:30:53 UTC  

In accounting capital is any form of asset that has a monetary value assigned to it

2018-12-20 19:31:16 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-20 19:31:37 UTC  

any society with capital is capitalist in my opinion

2018-12-20 19:32:04 UTC  

true marxist communism would be the only outlier

2018-12-20 19:32:21 UTC  

Alright, I see your position now. It's more of a strict one, but still correct depending on how one looks at it

2018-12-20 19:32:45 UTC  

spain republic had no capital but they soon introduced coupons

2018-12-20 19:36:49 UTC  

What most people call capitalism could be called labeled "liberalism" if this definition is to be followed

2018-12-20 19:40:28 UTC  

*any system with a monetary unit is capitalism*
By that logic Feudalism and Fascism are capitalist.

2018-12-20 19:40:47 UTC  

Idk how many commies would agree with you calling Feudalism capitalist

2018-12-20 19:49:43 UTC  

I agree that Feudalism and Fascism are economically capitalist

2018-12-20 19:51:04 UTC  

@ImATomato I'm not a commie though just a humble CS major that had to take 4 semesters of accounting.

2018-12-20 19:51:30 UTC  

CompSci?

2018-12-20 19:51:33 UTC  

yes

2018-12-20 19:51:34 UTC  

Fair enough

2018-12-20 19:52:09 UTC  

Taking a degree in CS myslef

2018-12-20 19:52:27 UTC  

most people look at capitalism as a political system I look at it as strictly economic

2018-12-20 19:53:02 UTC  

Honestly idk if capitalism really exists because nobody seems to have a consistent definition of it and it doesn't seem to be a singular thing

2018-12-20 19:53:35 UTC  

an unrelated example of how I view things I pissed a nat soc off because he asked for a nat soc role in one server I co-own I gave him "Marxist"

2018-12-20 19:53:52 UTC  

and Nationalist

2018-12-20 19:53:58 UTC  

but still he freaked

2018-12-20 19:54:00 UTC  

In a sense monkeys can become capitalist the moment you give them tokens and they use it to exchange for food or groomings

2018-12-20 19:54:06 UTC  

yes

2018-12-20 19:54:25 UTC  

bonobos are capitalist as they trade a service for various things

2018-12-20 19:54:33 UTC  

the service happens to be sex

2018-12-20 19:54:37 UTC  

Hah what a sperg

2018-12-20 19:55:44 UTC  

I just googled the definion of capitalism for the first time and it fits my explanation