But it's the good cush, they can't.

Indeed

it is not istanbul it is constantinople

*Tsaragrad

Constantinople!

Or Byzantion if we want to be true traditionalists.

The fact that people have done things I disagree with in the past doesn’t make my current opinions invalid.

human thoughts have no impact on truthfulness

@Bearer Of The Curse the simplest way we explain natural law is that everyone has the right to own themselves

You still didn't say why. Why are you a pacifist and why is splash following us when we gave him space?

pacifist?

i want a recreational mcnuke

Wrong term, yes

anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-pacifism are different.

because i can discuss seriously if i so please

Why are you allowed to own yourself?

Moral instincs are contextual and as such a construction of an universalistic rule is unnatural from the get go.

My foundational idea is that all people have the right to control themselves and their property.

@Aki @Splash/Alex This place is supposed to hold only one conversation at a time

Why?

So you hijack a word that has real value to it and use it as a sort of argumentative ruse because contradicting a natural law = irrational.
Also, it is a very comfortable opinion to have when you can live of the past actions of other people that didn't have that privilige

Because I find it unreasonable to use violence to control other individuals.

It’s quite simple.

Social pressure is violence in that meaning

Certainly not.

You can have indirect control without initiating force.

You do acknowledge that someone that failed to accept social pressure will be in an ancap society isolated and left to die, right?

@Bearer Of The Curse I am not sure there is such rule and I said it in the context of the discussion you are having with Water

yeah, sure.

what happens if you refuse to get a job?

if nobody takes care of you, ya die.

but if you wanna play alone then I am not gonna bug in lol

:p

ladies, please, one at a time.

You’re in a serious discussion chat, and you aren’t part of the discussion.

If you meet a threat, will you not deal with it by violence, Water?

If someone threatens me with violence, I will use equal or greater force to respond.

the difference between anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-pacifism is that ancaps allow for the defense of yourself and others.

I think we might have jumped a little too far off, let's go back a little. Are you an ancap just because you want the right to self-defense and believe in owning land and yourself? And why specifically ancap?

eeech i don’t *really* believe in it so much as most others, but the non-aggression principle is a pretty good base for ancap philosophy.

Essentially anarcho-capitalism is against the initiation of violence, but isn’t against retaliation.