Message from @Krille P.

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2019-01-05 22:23:10 UTC  

What makes that money valuable?

2019-01-05 22:23:26 UTC  

That all the last 5 cities dominated already use it

2019-01-05 22:23:35 UTC  

What will prevent them form posing as good and then start extorting when they have manpower and hardware?

2019-01-05 22:23:55 UTC  

They don't even need money after a certain point ffs

2019-01-05 22:24:33 UTC  

First of all, it’d be very difficult to find willing ‘soldiers’ to carry out violence against innocents.

2019-01-05 22:24:55 UTC  

But what prevents this situation from happening under a state?

2019-01-05 22:25:07 UTC  

Surely not, they are individuals, AND contractually obliged

2019-01-05 22:25:33 UTC  

By contractually obliged I’m sure you mean that they’ll be fired if they don’t, right?

2019-01-05 22:25:41 UTC  

They'll die for theft

2019-01-05 22:25:53 UTC  

that’s not how it works

2019-01-05 22:26:05 UTC  

Uneducated, read a history book. Still, it is only the (supposed) good-will of these individuals that is the protection from gang-like protection companies. In a state we have checks and balances. One institution doesn't have all the power

2019-01-05 22:26:07 UTC  

That is if they do so after being paid that month

2019-01-05 22:26:41 UTC  

Paying an employee is a voluntary transaction, something that cannot be undone.

2019-01-05 22:26:53 UTC  

You can choose not to make future payments, but that doesn’t undo past ones.

2019-01-05 22:27:41 UTC  

Their equipment and training are maintained by you, having them revolt makes them thieves of both

2019-01-05 22:28:33 UTC  

if i choose to stop working for the company, but steal my equipment on the way out, how am i any better than them?

2019-01-05 22:28:36 UTC  

This discussion is retarded, I'm stopping it before we reach on the age of consent

2019-01-05 22:28:59 UTC  

like i said, statuary arguments come in at that point.

2019-01-05 22:31:04 UTC  

Water, you are a reactionary to the powers that control the state. You must however acknowledge groups and not be an individualist, especially since you're religious.

2019-01-05 22:31:50 UTC  

i just don’t think it’s okay to use violence to enforce my ideas on others, how is that an incompatible idea?

2019-01-05 22:32:42 UTC  

tfw still haven't got an answer to my legimate question abot the protection companies turning gang ;_;

2019-01-05 22:32:54 UTC  

Water, why is individualism good

2019-01-05 22:32:55 UTC  

Physical violence is not unique and has nothing to it, you are obligated with or without physical harm

2019-01-05 22:33:25 UTC  

Don't you see that nearly everyone around you is individualist? That they really only care about themselves?

2019-01-05 22:33:35 UTC  

well, around you as in society, not here

2019-01-05 22:34:08 UTC  

individualism isn’t my ideal, i just don’t advocate unprovoked violence.

2019-01-05 22:34:09 UTC  

Or are you associating individualism with economics

2019-01-05 22:34:26 UTC  

Ok, and why doe sthat justify Anarcho Capitalism

2019-01-05 22:34:41 UTC  

that *is* anarcho-capitalism

2019-01-05 22:34:43 UTC  

Water, for how long are you into politics?

2019-01-05 22:34:56 UTC  

Unprovoked Violence is ancap..?

2019-01-05 22:35:49 UTC  

Anarcho-capitalism is the idea that the initiation of violence is inherently illegitimate.

2019-01-05 22:36:06 UTC  

isnt that just the NAP

2019-01-05 22:36:28 UTC  

I’m not a NAP ancap, but yeah that’s a pretty rough description of how it works.

2019-01-05 22:36:59 UTC  

and under a state, violence is ok...?

2019-01-05 22:37:01 UTC  

Are you for real or just trolling?

2019-01-05 22:37:14 UTC  

states exist through the use of violence.

2019-01-05 22:37:28 UTC  

i’m plenty real, why are you so violent?

2019-01-05 22:37:29 UTC  

Alright, we found the meme

2019-01-05 22:38:05 UTC  

and there are plenty of examples of corporations using violence to get what they want

2019-01-05 22:38:39 UTC  

States maintain the majority's will through collective power, this is the natural phenomena of a tribe