Message from @Bearer Of The Curse

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2019-01-05 22:18:16 UTC  

ok this is epic

2019-01-05 22:18:16 UTC  

although, that brings in statutory discussion and such.

2019-01-05 22:18:20 UTC  

It will not be war since that requires some sort of institutions (is a form of institution really), more like ooga-booga raids. Also the "war" part isn't the most problematic. How would people living in a geographical area where a protection company that uses illegal methods like extortion, kidnaping, etc. deal with this problem? Go to the police? Oh right, we abolished those and replaced them with the people causing the strife

2019-01-05 22:19:29 UTC  

Water stop defending ancap, you're making yourself look worse

2019-01-05 22:19:56 UTC  

Assuming this protection company is the only organized group in the entire area, individuals have the right to defend themselves from that type of action.

2019-01-05 22:20:25 UTC  

It's not in their interest to resist

2019-01-05 22:20:36 UTC  

Sure it is, why wouldn’t it be?

2019-01-05 22:20:49 UTC  

if someone is stealing from you, you stop em’.

2019-01-05 22:20:58 UTC  

Because death is the maximum bad trade for an individual

2019-01-05 22:21:07 UTC  

would you not shoot a home invader?

2019-01-05 22:21:19 UTC  

Not when they outnumber you and have you surrounded

2019-01-05 22:21:24 UTC  

*One man exits with shotgun, then the company comes with armoured cars and machine guns* so the only thing that protects them is the good-will of the dominant company? That will surely work

2019-01-05 22:21:41 UTC  

Congratulations, you’ve figured out how gangs work.

2019-01-05 22:21:49 UTC  

Do you want a medal?

2019-01-05 22:21:52 UTC  

So ancap is mafia city

2019-01-05 22:22:05 UTC  

And what will prevent protection companys becoming gangs?

2019-01-05 22:22:28 UTC  

Where do the protection companies get their funding?

2019-01-05 22:22:44 UTC  

I never said that they weren't gangs answer the question my scenario poses instead of coming with iq89 one-liners

2019-01-05 22:22:57 UTC  

They print money with their private banks <:ancap:521375203893182472>

2019-01-05 22:23:10 UTC  

What makes that money valuable?

2019-01-05 22:23:26 UTC  

That all the last 5 cities dominated already use it

2019-01-05 22:23:35 UTC  

What will prevent them form posing as good and then start extorting when they have manpower and hardware?

2019-01-05 22:23:55 UTC  

They don't even need money after a certain point ffs

2019-01-05 22:24:33 UTC  

First of all, it’d be very difficult to find willing ‘soldiers’ to carry out violence against innocents.

2019-01-05 22:24:55 UTC  

But what prevents this situation from happening under a state?

2019-01-05 22:25:07 UTC  

Surely not, they are individuals, AND contractually obliged

2019-01-05 22:25:33 UTC  

By contractually obliged I’m sure you mean that they’ll be fired if they don’t, right?

2019-01-05 22:25:41 UTC  

They'll die for theft

2019-01-05 22:25:53 UTC  

that’s not how it works

2019-01-05 22:26:05 UTC  

Uneducated, read a history book. Still, it is only the (supposed) good-will of these individuals that is the protection from gang-like protection companies. In a state we have checks and balances. One institution doesn't have all the power

2019-01-05 22:26:07 UTC  

That is if they do so after being paid that month

2019-01-05 22:26:41 UTC  

Paying an employee is a voluntary transaction, something that cannot be undone.

2019-01-05 22:26:53 UTC  

You can choose not to make future payments, but that doesn’t undo past ones.

2019-01-05 22:27:41 UTC  

Their equipment and training are maintained by you, having them revolt makes them thieves of both

2019-01-05 22:28:33 UTC  

if i choose to stop working for the company, but steal my equipment on the way out, how am i any better than them?

2019-01-05 22:28:36 UTC  

This discussion is retarded, I'm stopping it before we reach on the age of consent

2019-01-05 22:28:59 UTC  

like i said, statuary arguments come in at that point.

2019-01-05 22:31:04 UTC  

Water, you are a reactionary to the powers that control the state. You must however acknowledge groups and not be an individualist, especially since you're religious.

2019-01-05 22:31:50 UTC  

i just don’t think it’s okay to use violence to enforce my ideas on others, how is that an incompatible idea?

2019-01-05 22:32:42 UTC  

tfw still haven't got an answer to my legimate question abot the protection companies turning gang ;_;

2019-01-05 22:32:54 UTC  

Water, why is individualism good