Message from @Bearer Of The Curse

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2019-01-05 22:25:53 UTC  

that’s not how it works

2019-01-05 22:26:05 UTC  

Uneducated, read a history book. Still, it is only the (supposed) good-will of these individuals that is the protection from gang-like protection companies. In a state we have checks and balances. One institution doesn't have all the power

2019-01-05 22:26:07 UTC  

That is if they do so after being paid that month

2019-01-05 22:26:41 UTC  

Paying an employee is a voluntary transaction, something that cannot be undone.

2019-01-05 22:26:53 UTC  

You can choose not to make future payments, but that doesn’t undo past ones.

2019-01-05 22:27:41 UTC  

Their equipment and training are maintained by you, having them revolt makes them thieves of both

2019-01-05 22:28:33 UTC  

if i choose to stop working for the company, but steal my equipment on the way out, how am i any better than them?

2019-01-05 22:28:36 UTC  

This discussion is retarded, I'm stopping it before we reach on the age of consent

2019-01-05 22:28:59 UTC  

like i said, statuary arguments come in at that point.

2019-01-05 22:31:04 UTC  

Water, you are a reactionary to the powers that control the state. You must however acknowledge groups and not be an individualist, especially since you're religious.

2019-01-05 22:31:50 UTC  

i just don’t think it’s okay to use violence to enforce my ideas on others, how is that an incompatible idea?

2019-01-05 22:32:42 UTC  

tfw still haven't got an answer to my legimate question abot the protection companies turning gang ;_;

2019-01-05 22:32:54 UTC  

Water, why is individualism good

2019-01-05 22:32:55 UTC  

Physical violence is not unique and has nothing to it, you are obligated with or without physical harm

2019-01-05 22:33:25 UTC  

Don't you see that nearly everyone around you is individualist? That they really only care about themselves?

2019-01-05 22:33:35 UTC  

well, around you as in society, not here

2019-01-05 22:34:08 UTC  

individualism isn’t my ideal, i just don’t advocate unprovoked violence.

2019-01-05 22:34:09 UTC  

Or are you associating individualism with economics

2019-01-05 22:34:26 UTC  

Ok, and why doe sthat justify Anarcho Capitalism

2019-01-05 22:34:41 UTC  

that *is* anarcho-capitalism

2019-01-05 22:34:43 UTC  

Water, for how long are you into politics?

2019-01-05 22:34:56 UTC  

Unprovoked Violence is ancap..?

2019-01-05 22:35:49 UTC  

Anarcho-capitalism is the idea that the initiation of violence is inherently illegitimate.

2019-01-05 22:36:06 UTC  

isnt that just the NAP

2019-01-05 22:36:28 UTC  

I’m not a NAP ancap, but yeah that’s a pretty rough description of how it works.

2019-01-05 22:36:59 UTC  

and under a state, violence is ok...?

2019-01-05 22:37:01 UTC  

Are you for real or just trolling?

2019-01-05 22:37:14 UTC  

states exist through the use of violence.

2019-01-05 22:37:28 UTC  

i’m plenty real, why are you so violent?

2019-01-05 22:37:29 UTC  

Alright, we found the meme

2019-01-05 22:38:05 UTC  

and there are plenty of examples of corporations using violence to get what they want

2019-01-05 22:38:39 UTC  

States maintain the majority's will through collective power, this is the natural phenomena of a tribe

2019-01-05 22:38:41 UTC  

what stops violence in Anarcho Capitalism

2019-01-05 22:38:45 UTC  

Because liberalism (therefore ancap by extension) is the true cancer of the modern west and really only is about the liberty to stab your fellow man in the back and I will give my very life to fight it

2019-01-05 22:39:06 UTC  

You seem to view all governments as if they are 1984

2019-01-05 22:39:08 UTC  

i just want the liberty to defend myself against violence, that’s all.

2019-01-05 22:39:11 UTC  

Which by the way

2019-01-05 22:39:15 UTC  

was written by a communist

2019-01-05 22:39:27 UTC  

You will have that behind a fair state, water

2019-01-05 22:39:30 UTC  

i quite like Orwell, but not all government is like that.

2019-01-05 22:39:35 UTC  

@Water why not just go to a stand your ground state