Message from @PunishedMuskovy

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2019-01-05 23:58:29 UTC  

Suicide is punishable by death in ancap society.

2019-01-05 23:58:33 UTC  

rather than saving him via violence

2019-01-05 23:58:57 UTC  

via significant violence, but if necessary i would use appropriate force.

2019-01-05 23:59:18 UTC  

But isn't your body just your property?

2019-01-05 23:59:22 UTC  

i won’t remove his legs to stop him from jumping off a bridge.

2019-01-05 23:59:27 UTC  

@Water signifigant violence against friend which saves him, or let friend die and go to hell

2019-01-06 00:00:29 UTC  

if they’re absolutely going to kill themselves no matter what, eventually what you do to prevent it would rob them of what life they still have.

2019-01-06 00:00:42 UTC  

if appropriate force would stop them, i would do so.

2019-01-06 00:00:42 UTC  

water holy shit

2019-01-06 00:00:49 UTC  

i said saves for a reason

2019-01-06 00:01:02 UTC  

theres 2 options here

2019-01-06 00:01:04 UTC  

but there comes a point where it’s inappropriate.

2019-01-06 00:01:06 UTC  

signifigant violence

2019-01-06 00:01:11 UTC  

or friend condeming himself to hell

2019-01-06 00:01:28 UTC  

circumstances vary too much to make an absolute choice

2019-01-06 00:01:36 UTC  

SIGNIFIGANT VIOLENCE

2019-01-06 00:01:44 UTC  

OR FRIEND CONDEMING HIMSELF TO HELL

2019-01-06 00:01:45 UTC  

does significant violence mean tackling him, or blowing his legs off?

2019-01-06 00:02:08 UTC  

water, I thought you said pushing wanst signifigant violence

2019-01-06 00:02:11 UTC  

significant violence is broad, and varies on a situational basis.

2019-01-06 00:02:27 UTC  

ok, lets say

2019-01-06 00:02:28 UTC  

if you tackle someone you can do a hell of a lot more than a shove.

2019-01-06 00:02:37 UTC  

you have to shoot him in the leg with a mosin nagant

2019-01-06 00:02:42 UTC  

to save him

2019-01-06 00:02:50 UTC  

he wont die from the wound

2019-01-06 00:02:59 UTC  

if i’m certain he’ll live, sure i’d do that.

2019-01-06 00:03:11 UTC  

but if saving his life means threatening it further, no.

2019-01-06 00:03:43 UTC  

well, wouldnt him dying from the wound mean he would go to heaven

2019-01-06 00:04:01 UTC  

that’s not for me to decide.

2019-01-06 00:04:19 UTC  

at that point, what happens to him is between him and God.

2019-01-06 00:04:34 UTC  

Ok let me expand upon this further

2019-01-06 00:05:05 UTC  

You can either
1. shoot him in the leg, this forever cripples him but he will die naturally later on in life
2. you let him die and go to hell

2019-01-06 00:05:42 UTC  

i’d cripple him if i was certain that i wouldn’t kill him, of course.

2019-01-06 00:06:00 UTC  

I thought that fell under 'signifigant violence

2019-01-06 00:06:28 UTC  

i referred to entire removal of extremities, which almost always has a chance to end in death.

2019-01-06 00:06:50 UTC  

and such scenario wouldnt happen

2019-01-06 00:06:56 UTC  

unless its Saw

2019-01-06 00:07:20 UTC  

i didn’t say it was likely, i said i wouldn’t do it.

2019-01-06 00:07:35 UTC  

this all exists hypothetically.

2019-01-06 00:07:51 UTC  

So you seem to base your signifigant violence off of

2019-01-06 00:07:56 UTC  

"if it has a high risk of death"