Message from @Scipio Americanus

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2019-02-02 05:29:58 UTC  

just an example

2019-02-02 05:30:26 UTC  

So if you donkey vote or scribble in a vote for hitler or whatever then you can’t be fined

2019-02-02 05:31:57 UTC  

lul

2019-02-02 05:32:00 UTC  

You do actually have to go to the voting booth though

2019-02-02 05:32:08 UTC  

ok sorry, i sorta derailed

2019-02-02 05:32:30 UTC  

i just saw that and about did a triple front flip

2019-02-02 05:35:29 UTC  

It seems to be something Americans and Australians have very different views on. Voting is seen a civic duty here and your part in contributing to the electoral process of the nation just as taxes are your contribution to the nations fiscal processes

2019-02-02 05:35:57 UTC  

do you understand why i want the house to be working class people? i want to put people in a position where they are fully engrossed in politics in person, with a well informed opinion, and for these people to see literally every law that gets passed. my state just made like 1700 laws **apparently** in 17 days (facebook, im looking it up now)

2019-02-02 05:39:03 UTC  

i cant find anything... eh, who needs sources right 🤷

2019-02-02 05:40:04 UTC  

I get it, I share the concern of opening up involvement from both directions as the political “elites” are struggling to understand what exactly people want and people are finding politics increasingly difficult to follow effectively

2019-02-02 05:40:36 UTC  

and then a corporation strolls in with money

2019-02-02 05:40:54 UTC  

or worse, the congressmen owns said corporation

2019-02-02 05:42:54 UTC  

Money isn’t even the big factor, it’s the fact that corporations can actually have staff dedicated to a particular interest and really generate a plan around that

2019-02-02 05:43:26 UTC  

You gotta remember that politicians don’t have a large staff compared to the people they represent and that the jobs really broad and insecure

2019-02-02 05:43:55 UTC  

***money isnt a problem*** This is america

2019-02-02 05:45:05 UTC  

Understood, but all the data suggests corruption really isn’t a huge issue in America

2019-02-02 05:45:43 UTC  

The money comes down to having a staff be able to crank out policy year on year

2019-02-02 05:46:31 UTC  

Politicians can’t do that, especially for the range of issues they seek to confront so when a lobbyist walks in as a man with a plan he’s fucking Jesus Christ

2019-02-02 05:47:01 UTC  

huh, really? not what i have seen, but then again, im still young and inexperienced

2019-02-02 05:47:21 UTC  

(not sarcasm)

2019-02-02 05:47:47 UTC  

lul

2019-02-02 05:48:37 UTC  

ya, getting them more supporting staff is now on the agenda *writes down in notebook*

2019-02-02 05:49:40 UTC  

im trying to fix the other problem=the gridlock of having so many people vs reps who arent reps

2019-02-02 05:53:19 UTC  

dear God, i just realized how many people we would have to hire to staff my idea.... it would be astronomical

2019-02-02 05:54:50 UTC  

Well that’s effectively the bureaucracy. Politicians come and go but the bureaucracy remains and they’re the experienced experts that politicians should rely on

2019-02-02 05:57:24 UTC  

Problem is they all represent their department or policy group and they have their own views on how things should be run that may or may not map to the electorate

2019-02-02 05:58:22 UTC  

ya, but they shouldn't actually be making the decision like they do now, just providing there support

2019-02-02 05:58:47 UTC  

i considered that myself

2019-02-02 05:59:18 UTC  

They’re also the ones who make things happen. So if they don’t want something to work, a politician needs to precisely specify what they want otherwise it will be interpreted to suit whatever that dept wants it to be or turns into malicious compliance

2019-02-02 05:59:26 UTC  

came to the conclusion that they can inform people if put in that position

2019-02-02 05:59:45 UTC  

eek

2019-02-02 05:59:56 UTC  

i have to go...

2019-02-02 06:00:01 UTC  

Cya mang

2019-02-02 16:41:26 UTC  

just

2019-02-02 16:41:41 UTC  

elect dicator every 10-20 years

2019-02-02 18:56:16 UTC  

@Milan I was actually going to bring up dictators today, the problem with your design however, is what stops the detainer from just killing the people who are supposed to run the elections? The only system like this that I've managed to see that actually works is the Roman Kingdom. (The predecessor to the Roman Republic) they had a council that selected New Kings after one died

2019-02-02 18:57:25 UTC  

I'm using super akward talk-to-text rn, sry about weird words

2019-02-02 22:01:07 UTC  

MGTOW NATIONALISM

2019-02-03 00:44:35 UTC  

mgtow will be the death of our countries

2019-02-03 00:45:32 UTC  

He left or got banned

2019-02-03 00:45:39 UTC  

so he was clearly shitposting