Message from @CronoSaturn

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2019-02-02 05:16:49 UTC  

do you mean like party voting?

2019-02-02 05:17:40 UTC  

So at this time in the English speaking world representatives are elected to represent a certain region even in national elections

2019-02-02 05:18:46 UTC  

Those seats are allocated to smaller regional electorates which your votes go to and the majority winner of that region gets representation

2019-02-02 05:19:38 UTC  

making for rather safe and moderate voting

2019-02-02 05:20:00 UTC  

albeit, stagnant

2019-02-02 05:22:31 UTC  

Not necessarily and it means that large portions of the populations vote are disregarded. Everyone’s vote who wasn’t the majority in their region goes nowhere

2019-02-02 05:24:04 UTC  

wait.. wtf?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508381442942959616/541126638042218506/unknown.png

2019-02-02 05:24:11 UTC  

you guys have to vote?

2019-02-02 05:24:22 UTC  

Yes. You pay a fine if you don’t

2019-02-02 05:24:30 UTC  

holy shit

2019-02-02 05:24:42 UTC  

Or you have to justify why you weren’t able to vote.

2019-02-02 05:25:07 UTC  

I think that’s valid

2019-02-02 05:25:17 UTC  

**FUCK IT** ***MAKE THE HOUSE LIKE JURY DUTY***

2019-02-02 05:25:35 UTC  

problem solved

2019-02-02 05:26:15 UTC  

@CronoSaturn i didnt even think that was possible tbh

2019-02-02 05:27:46 UTC  

How so? You’re on the electoral roll, they have to check who you are when you vote and while they do that they record you voted

2019-02-02 05:29:18 UTC  

If you havnt registered a postal vote and you havnt voted in person at the end of the election they send you a fine

2019-02-02 05:29:22 UTC  

i guess i just thought that was a no no, like none secret ballots

2019-02-02 05:29:41 UTC  

The ballot is secret

2019-02-02 05:29:58 UTC  

just an example

2019-02-02 05:30:26 UTC  

So if you donkey vote or scribble in a vote for hitler or whatever then you can’t be fined

2019-02-02 05:31:57 UTC  

lul

2019-02-02 05:32:00 UTC  

You do actually have to go to the voting booth though

2019-02-02 05:32:08 UTC  

ok sorry, i sorta derailed

2019-02-02 05:32:30 UTC  

i just saw that and about did a triple front flip

2019-02-02 05:35:29 UTC  

It seems to be something Americans and Australians have very different views on. Voting is seen a civic duty here and your part in contributing to the electoral process of the nation just as taxes are your contribution to the nations fiscal processes

2019-02-02 05:35:57 UTC  

do you understand why i want the house to be working class people? i want to put people in a position where they are fully engrossed in politics in person, with a well informed opinion, and for these people to see literally every law that gets passed. my state just made like 1700 laws **apparently** in 17 days (facebook, im looking it up now)

2019-02-02 05:39:03 UTC  

i cant find anything... eh, who needs sources right 🤷

2019-02-02 05:40:04 UTC  

I get it, I share the concern of opening up involvement from both directions as the political “elites” are struggling to understand what exactly people want and people are finding politics increasingly difficult to follow effectively

2019-02-02 05:40:36 UTC  

and then a corporation strolls in with money

2019-02-02 05:40:54 UTC  

or worse, the congressmen owns said corporation

2019-02-02 05:42:54 UTC  

Money isn’t even the big factor, it’s the fact that corporations can actually have staff dedicated to a particular interest and really generate a plan around that

2019-02-02 05:43:26 UTC  

You gotta remember that politicians don’t have a large staff compared to the people they represent and that the jobs really broad and insecure

2019-02-02 05:43:55 UTC  

***money isnt a problem*** This is america

2019-02-02 05:45:05 UTC  

Understood, but all the data suggests corruption really isn’t a huge issue in America

2019-02-02 05:45:43 UTC  

The money comes down to having a staff be able to crank out policy year on year

2019-02-02 05:46:31 UTC  

Politicians can’t do that, especially for the range of issues they seek to confront so when a lobbyist walks in as a man with a plan he’s fucking Jesus Christ

2019-02-02 05:47:01 UTC  

huh, really? not what i have seen, but then again, im still young and inexperienced

2019-02-02 05:47:21 UTC  

(not sarcasm)

2019-02-02 05:47:47 UTC  

lul

2019-02-02 05:48:37 UTC  

ya, getting them more supporting staff is now on the agenda *writes down in notebook*