Message from @Hirden
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danzig had been german territory for the longest time
And now it was polish. Germany was unable to project power in a capacity to reclaim the Danzig, hence it wasnt german.
tbf the people of danzig were mostly german, but thats hardly justification to invade and conquer poland
Poland should have just given back land that was mostly German
im a bit concerned that ur being an apologist for nazi german actions tho
i mean Hitler was a good leader
Objectively no.
@neztharion unfortunately its endemic in this server
he wanted the treaty of versailles (which was extremely unfair) to be reversed and germany returned to it's past and rightful glory
and Britain who controlled half the fucking world started shitting bricks
what past and rightful glory
Wonderful. Great blue sky thinking. Actual implementation wasnt so great though was it? Any kid can dream, it actually takes something more to make that a reality. Pissing off power houses as time shows is a bold strategy but generally a poor one.
this supposed utopian ethnostate that never existed
the territory of Germany before 1919
Let’s actually examine that as well. You criticise the british empire and yet somehow seem fully on board with the german empire, an empire who itself was unabashed in attaining its expansion through military actions with Austria, Bavaria, france, Denmark, and a slew of other smaller german states. Here bismark presented a policy of real politik with a solid grasp of the European dynamic to achieve german sovereignty not through right, but by blood and iron.
What “right” does germany have to these areas?
what right did Britain have to conquer half of the world, murder 10s of millions of people, introduce concentration camps and have them be used on Boers?
they did everything that Germany did and then some more
what-about-ism isnt a defence
Areas many of which had been considered german barely 50 years, germany itself being an infant on the world stage?
the british empire was pretty horrid. but a broken clock is right once a day - germany unjustly invaded their allies
reuniting germany was unjust?
reuniting germany is a very dishonest way of putting it
they invaded and conquered sovereign nations
they were trying to unify all Germans
oh so kinda like the British? 😂
again, whataboutism isnt rly an a good argument
my point right now is that the British are the biggest hypocrites in world history
broken clock is right twice* a day not once lol
okay but thats not really a good defence of germany
the Greater German Reich was meant to expand it's borders to include all ethnic Germans
whilst simultaneously conquering non german peoples and exterminating people deemed 'lesser'
that's what the Anchluss, Sudetenland, etc. was for
yeah very defensible
>non german peoples and exterminating people deemed 'lesser'
what people were exterminated for being lesser?
jews, gypsies, lgbt ppl, political opponents etc
Let’s address those too, the british “concentration camps” in the boer war had a lower death toll then many areas of the uk and are clearly nothing like equivalent to the death camps created by germany. I’d be happy in condemning it but raising a moral equivalence is absurd. It’s difficult to see where you get this arbitrary “10s of millions” from and much of british expansion was not facilitated by conquest, but trade and colonies.
Again, its difficult to justify “reuniting germany” when germany itself was the result of the conquest of a number of states in itself. What is “Ethnically german” is also hard to see when nearly universally a century prior they were all considered, and considered themselves, seperate people
>jews, gypsies, lgbt ppl, political opponents etc
jews, gypsies, faggots and traitors all deserved it
yeah you're
absolutely bonkers