Message from @CronoSaturn

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2019-03-13 20:39:02 UTC  

So you mean other nations objected to Germany’s expansion into their allies territory? So you mean germany started the war?

2019-03-13 20:40:13 UTC  

the largest estimated number of deaths in dresden was 25,000. while 25,000 lives is not to be scoffed at, its not a huge number when we compare it to other cities

2019-03-13 20:40:17 UTC  

that territory belonged to Germany. and Britain, who conquered half of the world already declared on a nation that wanted a retarded treaty like Versailles to be reversed.

2019-03-13 20:40:33 UTC  

revisionists would have you believe the death toll was 300,000 which is just plain ridiculous... thats more than both atomic bombs combined

2019-03-13 20:41:15 UTC  

right but that conquering wasnt really just..

2019-03-13 20:41:27 UTC  

let alone reconquering it lol

2019-03-13 20:42:52 UTC  

danzig had been german territory for the longest time

2019-03-13 20:43:52 UTC  

And now it was polish. Germany was unable to project power in a capacity to reclaim the Danzig, hence it wasnt german.

2019-03-13 20:44:44 UTC  

tbf the people of danzig were mostly german, but thats hardly justification to invade and conquer poland

2019-03-13 20:45:01 UTC  

Poland should have just given back land that was mostly German

2019-03-13 20:45:19 UTC  

im a bit concerned that ur being an apologist for nazi german actions tho

2019-03-13 20:45:54 UTC  

i mean Hitler was a good leader

2019-03-13 20:46:12 UTC  

Objectively no.

2019-03-13 20:46:42 UTC  

@neztharion unfortunately its endemic in this server

2019-03-13 20:46:58 UTC  

he wanted the treaty of versailles (which was extremely unfair) to be reversed and germany returned to it's past and rightful glory

2019-03-13 20:47:40 UTC  

and Britain who controlled half the fucking world started shitting bricks

2019-03-13 20:49:03 UTC  

what past and rightful glory

2019-03-13 20:49:22 UTC  

Wonderful. Great blue sky thinking. Actual implementation wasnt so great though was it? Any kid can dream, it actually takes something more to make that a reality. Pissing off power houses as time shows is a bold strategy but generally a poor one.

2019-03-13 20:49:30 UTC  

this supposed utopian ethnostate that never existed

2019-03-13 20:49:37 UTC  

the territory of Germany before 1919

2019-03-13 20:52:43 UTC  

Let’s actually examine that as well. You criticise the british empire and yet somehow seem fully on board with the german empire, an empire who itself was unabashed in attaining its expansion through military actions with Austria, Bavaria, france, Denmark, and a slew of other smaller german states. Here bismark presented a policy of real politik with a solid grasp of the European dynamic to achieve german sovereignty not through right, but by blood and iron.

2019-03-13 20:53:16 UTC  

What “right” does germany have to these areas?

2019-03-13 20:53:57 UTC  

what right did Britain have to conquer half of the world, murder 10s of millions of people, introduce concentration camps and have them be used on Boers?

2019-03-13 20:54:07 UTC  

they did everything that Germany did and then some more

2019-03-13 20:54:19 UTC  

what-about-ism isnt a defence

2019-03-13 20:54:27 UTC  

Areas many of which had been considered german barely 50 years, germany itself being an infant on the world stage?

2019-03-13 20:54:37 UTC  

it's showing the hypocrisy of Britain

2019-03-13 20:55:32 UTC  

the british empire was pretty horrid. but a broken clock is right once a day - germany unjustly invaded their allies

2019-03-13 20:55:51 UTC  

reuniting germany was unjust?

2019-03-13 20:56:15 UTC  

reuniting germany is a very dishonest way of putting it

2019-03-13 20:56:26 UTC  

they invaded and conquered sovereign nations

2019-03-13 20:56:30 UTC  

they were trying to unify all Germans

2019-03-13 20:56:40 UTC  

oh so kinda like the British? 😂

2019-03-13 20:56:56 UTC  

again, whataboutism isnt rly an a good argument

2019-03-13 20:57:19 UTC  

my point right now is that the British are the biggest hypocrites in world history

2019-03-13 20:57:38 UTC  

broken clock is right twice* a day not once lol

2019-03-13 20:57:56 UTC  

okay but thats not really a good defence of germany

2019-03-13 20:58:19 UTC  

the Greater German Reich was meant to expand it's borders to include all ethnic Germans

2019-03-13 20:58:52 UTC  

whilst simultaneously conquering non german peoples and exterminating people deemed 'lesser'

2019-03-13 20:58:53 UTC  

that's what the Anchluss, Sudetenland, etc. was for

2019-03-13 20:58:58 UTC  

yeah very defensible