Message from @FreshWholeMilk

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2018-12-10 00:18:49 UTC  

death to liberalistism

2018-12-10 00:18:49 UTC  

kill da boer

2018-12-10 00:18:56 UTC  

y'all are like

2018-12-10 00:18:58 UTC  

mostly american right

2018-12-10 00:19:01 UTC  

nope

2018-12-10 00:19:02 UTC  

You are going to have to go out of your way to find an atheist who views life as a random consequence, not even the amazing atheist thinks like that

2018-12-10 00:19:29 UTC  

But I can, however, find a theist who assigns that position to the nonreligious quite easily with no trouble

2018-12-10 00:19:38 UTC  

The point I'm getting at is, it's a position you want them to have

2018-12-10 00:19:43 UTC  

rather than a position they actually have

2018-12-10 00:19:44 UTC  

^

2018-12-10 00:19:49 UTC  
2018-12-10 00:20:16 UTC  

Well, you don’t believe there’s any objective purpose, do you?

2018-12-10 00:21:22 UTC  

I do believe there is purpose to life, as I have explained in the past. The human mind is geared towards self-actualization and a desires to feel like it has a purpose in life

2018-12-10 00:21:28 UTC  

isn't purpose always assigned though? its hardly inherent in things

2018-12-10 00:21:29 UTC  

*desire

2018-12-10 00:21:49 UTC  

Yeah it’s not a “real” purpose, it’s a desire

2018-12-10 00:21:50 UTC  

hey guys

2018-12-10 00:21:56 UTC  

i live in one of the few remaining conservative strongholds of canada

2018-12-10 00:22:05 UTC  

it's gotten bad

2018-12-10 00:22:08 UTC  

We all define objective morality subjectively

2018-12-10 00:22:21 UTC  

But that’s just a purpose the chemicals in your brain have assigned to it

2018-12-10 00:22:24 UTC  

```i live in one of the few remaining conservative strongholds of canada
it's gotten bad```

well duh, its a conservative stronghold. of course its bad 😄

2018-12-10 00:22:29 UTC  

prices are skyrocketing everywhere

2018-12-10 00:22:29 UTC  

I've figured that the best moral system is the one that is closely aligned with the truth

2018-12-10 00:22:36 UTC  

🇯🇲

2018-12-10 00:22:38 UTC  

But the problem is no two people view truth the same

2018-12-10 00:23:00 UTC  

@FreshWholeMilk I fail to see what that is supposed to mean.

2018-12-10 00:23:15 UTC  

there's a political divide in the schools between the gays and everyone else which is coming close to a boiling point

2018-12-10 00:23:19 UTC  

How do you determine the truth?

2018-12-10 00:23:20 UTC  

How can a moral system be aligned with truth at all?

2018-12-10 00:23:26 UTC  

>Okay, you may be driven to do something, but I don't like what you're driven by?

2018-12-10 00:23:29 UTC  

All normative claims are subjective

2018-12-10 00:23:33 UTC  

Honestly, why does it matter?

2018-12-10 00:23:36 UTC  

trudeau is apologising to everyone and nothing is getting done

2018-12-10 00:23:40 UTC  

Seems like the goals are being shifted

2018-12-10 00:23:51 UTC  

You just said earlier there is no purpose to life in the atheist worldview

2018-12-10 00:23:53 UTC  

parliament is mostly down to screaming matches between the conservatives and liberals

2018-12-10 00:23:58 UTC  

Now you are attacking what gives that purpose

2018-12-10 00:24:22 UTC  

Because it’s arbitrary

2018-12-10 00:24:46 UTC  

either canada's about to enter a political age akin to the 2016 election in america

2018-12-10 00:24:51 UTC  

It’s as arbitrary as god giving you purpose