@Bird Wizard most of northern europe was like that

^

Europe had lords and was feudal

In the 400s

And before

Europe had a concept of economy ad currency also

trade

contact with other parts of the world via land and sea travel

Land + people = country

@Bird Wizard I said it was probably an organised society and they did have institutions, a council of elders is an institution, and infrastructure is dependent on the society they live in, the infrastructure the community created would've been shelter and whatever else

City states =/= tribal

They had that @Nikitis

which what northern europe was

northern europe had city states?

I've noticed alot of fighting over terms here

i genuinely don't know

seems silly

Northern europe for most of it's life has been a backwater tbh @Bird Wizard

A country isn't a land and a people, it's a political body

The land of the Normans

@Gas the Zoomers we all have to reach a consensus on the terms we use in order to have a correct dialectic

and yet now Northern Europe has advanced beyonf everyone in virtually no time at all

The land of the Franks

@Gas the Zoomers ye

sure maybe they did, but its mostly due to inheriting everything from romans

northern europe is still pretty much seen as the backwaters here in europe, and following an EXTREMELY unsustainable system that is social democracy will break them extremely rapidly @Gas the Zoomers

I hate social democracy more than any other system

Oh well

Swiss master race

it's such a cancerous snake of an ideology

In Dutch we just say "land" when referring to a country

In the end it's just a plot of land with people in it

And the romans got it from the Phoenician and other semites @Bird Wizard

Kaas ? @Nikitis

Yes

Lekker

romans got it from everyone tbh

Haha

Lol

If only I was not a lowly Amerimutt I could join the Swiss master race

woe is me