```> Fascism is the dictatorship of the collective

Fundamentally untrue. Fascism is the dictatorship of the state and the highest tiers of the state leadership to be exact; Fascism, due to its repudiation of democracy as being unconducive to the Fascist spirit, cannot be collective dictatorship because the collective would only be able to execute a collective will as emergent through democratic institutions. Communism can be considered to be dictatorship of the collective, but not Fascism..```

A Leader/Monarch/Premier is in essence supposed to represent the collective will of the Nation, and guide the society to above all else, it's Preservation. Now that is the Ideal.

If they mess things up, all the problems they create are theres to deal with, they can't just shed responsibility after 8 years and leave.. they will have their head at the end of a stick and they are very aware of that..

It isn't ofc a utopia, there are complications with this model too.. @Xinyue

Yes but that's not a very viable "collective dictatorship". That is private dictatorship of the state leadership, in abstract argued to be collective. But not in actual fact nor in the effect.

Fascism is also gay

^

very gay

Agree

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It’s just as revolutionary as communism

....literally is reactionary by definition tho

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hey now

It’s literally a revolutionary movement

"History does not travel backwards"

literally is not a revolutionary movement

-Mussolini

Fascism isn't Reactionary at all

It is a Modernist ideology

It is revolutionary perhaps in the sense that it posits itself *in opposition of capitalism,* but ultimately in an effort to realise some bygone guild system in a reconstituted form.

Perhaps you see it that way, however, fascism itself does not see itself as reactionary @Xinyue

Especially not Mussolini

Oh fuck oh fuck holy shit oh fuck oh fuck this is bad holy fuck

It’s part of the same erroneous western trend of attempting to immenentize the eschaton

I know, its a label imposed by Marxists

but I'm a Marxist so

can't help it

😁

At least in what I read in the doctrine of fascism

And solve man’s problems politically

there's literally nothing wrong with reactionary politics

There is NO political solution to man’s problems

We should take the Marxists and put them on a boat and float them into the Pacific until they starve to death and then recycle the boat into dildos to own the libs

lmao

My tummy hurts it's probably aliens

Well yeah, I've also read La Dottrina but it certainly doesn't seem to be revolutionary to me.

How about this. Fascism is neither revolutionary nor reactionary, but it is fundamentally *interventionist* ? @The Big Oof

damn, just another word for reactionary

Yes, but since he rejects the label what am I supposed to do?! 😄

Every post-enlightenment political ideology is revolutionary, how hard is this to understand?

```And living conditions were consistently rising in USSR, population was growing and the education levels were rising, etc. It was going pretty well until the era of stagnation triggered by Brezhnev's failure and then later driven to ground by Gorbachev```

also about this mate, u totally don't take into account why this is unsustainable.. there might have been population growth at that time but integrating women into the work force and then Liberalising Divorce laws, you have a breakdown of the nuclear family in process which in the case of Marxists isn't misguided, it is very intentional and you never admit to this mate @Xinyue

Isn't the sole object of Fascism to intervene in the society which it sees to be in a state of decline?

The sole object of *any* enlightenment political ideology is to solve man’s problems politically