It’s just as revolutionary as communism

....literally is reactionary by definition tho

Fresh = demoted confirmed

hey now

It’s literally a revolutionary movement

"History does not travel backwards"

literally is not a revolutionary movement

-Mussolini

Fascism isn't Reactionary at all

It is a Modernist ideology

It is revolutionary perhaps in the sense that it posits itself *in opposition of capitalism,* but ultimately in an effort to realise some bygone guild system in a reconstituted form.

Perhaps you see it that way, however, fascism itself does not see itself as reactionary @Xinyue

Especially not Mussolini

Oh fuck oh fuck holy shit oh fuck oh fuck this is bad holy fuck

It’s part of the same erroneous western trend of attempting to immenentize the eschaton

I know, its a label imposed by Marxists

but I'm a Marxist so

can't help it

😁

At least in what I read in the doctrine of fascism

And solve man’s problems politically

there's literally nothing wrong with reactionary politics

There is NO political solution to man’s problems

We should take the Marxists and put them on a boat and float them into the Pacific until they starve to death and then recycle the boat into dildos to own the libs

lmao

My tummy hurts it's probably aliens

Well yeah, I've also read La Dottrina but it certainly doesn't seem to be revolutionary to me.

How about this. Fascism is neither revolutionary nor reactionary, but it is fundamentally *interventionist* ? @The Big Oof

damn, just another word for reactionary

Yes, but since he rejects the label what am I supposed to do?! 😄

Every post-enlightenment political ideology is revolutionary, how hard is this to understand?

```And living conditions were consistently rising in USSR, population was growing and the education levels were rising, etc. It was going pretty well until the era of stagnation triggered by Brezhnev's failure and then later driven to ground by Gorbachev```

also about this mate, u totally don't take into account why this is unsustainable.. there might have been population growth at that time but integrating women into the work force and then Liberalising Divorce laws, you have a breakdown of the nuclear family in process which in the case of Marxists isn't misguided, it is very intentional and you never admit to this mate @Xinyue

Isn't the sole object of Fascism to intervene in the society which it sees to be in a state of decline?

The sole object of *any* enlightenment political ideology is to solve man’s problems politically

this fucking retarded argument people keep bringing up "oh standards are rising" it can rise from 0 to 1 and u can still say that

Are you guys still not swallowing the pill

swallow the capbol pill

> Every post-enlightenment political ideology is revolutionary, how hard is this to understand?

...no, that is not true. Contrary to what appear to be your observation, *history moves forward as conditions develop.* Its not that every ideology is now suddenly "revolutionary" by design, its just that the ideologies adjusted themselves to new conditions. This shift you see as revolutionary, and you assign the label to everything in this new age, but this doesn't mean that any of that is true or reflective of the actual development of society.

Fascism was unique to Europe, it's weird how Americans even discuss it as it is irrelevant to their nation

material wealth rising hardly means anything when you look at the trajectory of many societies.. it is a slow motion and somewhat comfortable death.

History does indeed move forward, but not in the way you think it does

Some brands of fascism are actually applicable to America, in some sense. Nazism isn't, but then again its not the only form.