Message from @AdorableStormtrooper
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Europeans lack the drive that Americans possess
everything below me is gay
>everything above me is authoritarian fascims
Americans can actually change things through politics because of their drive
fam....
Europeans are just low energy
Y'all call Merkel Right Wing in Europe so i don't even know anymore what you mean by Left
LUL
^^^^
omg....
this
so
fucking
much
> this was my point from earlier though, I genuinely don't think socialism can be revived anymore, same for fascism, you only have liberal forms of it
You say that, but I think that there's just been a general lull in socialist movements, in large part due to the dissolution of USSR. this was a huge event for the world socialist movement, something that sent us in a downwards spiral. But, we can make a comeback - in some sense, Bolivarian Revolution which itself took place years after the USSR's dissolution, showed us the way - despite all the failures
our right wing party is more liberal than america's liberal party
it's so fucking incredible
we all agree that liberalism needs to die
Spain is okay, they didn't get in alot of foreign immigrants
yeah liberalism needs to go and die, preferably someplace uncomfortable
like literally, Finland banned their so called far right party but apparently far right is on the rise
Liberalism is mainstream throughout the west
It wont die
>You say that, but I think that there's just been a general lull in socialist movements, in large part due to the dissolution of USSR.
yeah i can agree.... but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding, mostly Stalin. I'd support any revolutionary movement tbh
Liberalism as a position i can actually respect
unlike commies
Spain currently accepts the most foreign immigrants
there is some sense to it
there is no virtue to liberalism
Well then Spain is going downhill
>well then spain is going downhill
PSOE is dying, they're the status quo, as is PP, Spain is not going downhill
@aymem so even far left parties in spain are constitutionalist? that's pretty sad dude
why tf did Spanish vote for Podemos y'all know left is so messed up rn 😩
our far left party would be PODEMOS, and yeah
Taking in foreign immigrants means destroying your peoples own identity
>but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding
there's a movement, perhaps mostly on /leftypol/ at this stage, which resists this tendency. I'd say most in that clique have managed to hit that sweet spot of critical support for Soviet style politics, although there exits the usual uncritical variety as well which is generally not good and usually leads to further failures down the road
>leftypol
lmao
@Xinyue and i use the political spectrum in the liberal version btw, i know they're not left wing by your definition
I was talking about /leftypol/ so wp 😄
The Spanish Socialist Workers Party or PSOE certainly does not deserve the name it operates under