Message from @aymem
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>but in Finland, its the other way around. the centre and the ultra-right has been gaining ground almost with no input from the left. the old left, the kind of left I think is actual left, has evaporated from what once was a pretty eminent place in Finnish politics. SKDL/FDPL was one of the largest communist alliances outside Soviet bloc in Europe, which was a force in government pretty much nonstop 1945-1991 and now its totally gone
this was my point from earlier though, I genuinely don't thnk socialism can be revived anymore, same for fascism, you only have liberal forms of it
even Sweden doesn't do that
Liberalism destroyed Socialism, and both Socialism and Liberalism destroyed nationalism
Politics are a joke in Holland.
you only hve liberalised parasite forms of it
yeah the problem with the leftoids is that they call everything fascism, I've been called a fascist, my comrades have been called fascist, etc. however, there is some truth to their analysis of fascism and how it relates to the rest of the right, its simply that they take far too accusatory a line when it comes to identifying these in social relations
The fakeness is just so obvious.
>politics are a joke in holland
you're not a country, you're our catholic bitch
we will turn you catholic again
o.o
the left has been going downhill for some time imo
Europeans lack the drive that Americans possess
everything below me is gay
>everything above me is authoritarian fascims
Americans can actually change things through politics because of their drive
fam....
Europeans are just low energy
Y'all call Merkel Right Wing in Europe so i don't even know anymore what you mean by Left
LUL
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> this was my point from earlier though, I genuinely don't think socialism can be revived anymore, same for fascism, you only have liberal forms of it
You say that, but I think that there's just been a general lull in socialist movements, in large part due to the dissolution of USSR. this was a huge event for the world socialist movement, something that sent us in a downwards spiral. But, we can make a comeback - in some sense, Bolivarian Revolution which itself took place years after the USSR's dissolution, showed us the way - despite all the failures
our right wing party is more liberal than america's liberal party
it's so fucking incredible
we all agree that liberalism needs to die
Spain is okay, they didn't get in alot of foreign immigrants
yeah liberalism needs to go and die, preferably someplace uncomfortable
like literally, Finland banned their so called far right party but apparently far right is on the rise
Liberalism is mainstream throughout the west
It wont die
>You say that, but I think that there's just been a general lull in socialist movements, in large part due to the dissolution of USSR.
yeah i can agree.... but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding, mostly Stalin. I'd support any revolutionary movement tbh
Liberalism as a position i can actually respect
unlike commies
Spain currently accepts the most foreign immigrants
there is some sense to it
there is no virtue to liberalism
Well then Spain is going downhill