Message from @Notso

Discord ID: 522805143683465217


2018-12-13 15:15:58 UTC  

Awesome!

2018-12-13 15:16:20 UTC  

Some servers want only white male fascists and such

2018-12-13 15:16:57 UTC  

I’d definitely call Wilhelm II a “nationalist”

2018-12-13 15:17:42 UTC  

lol that wouldn't be the case here, we even have a loud minority on lefties

2018-12-13 15:17:43 UTC  

A monarchist?

2018-12-13 15:17:56 UTC  

By loud minority you mean 1 guy

2018-12-13 15:18:07 UTC  

2 or 3

2018-12-13 15:18:44 UTC  

Are you an absolute monarchist or a constitutional monarchist? I assume you mean hereditary monarchy

2018-12-13 15:19:13 UTC  

Hereditary?

2018-12-13 15:23:25 UTC  

Father to son

2018-12-13 15:24:57 UTC  

(I was just correcting the spelling, lol.)

2018-12-13 15:25:22 UTC  

Ah

2018-12-13 15:26:05 UTC  

Ebin

2018-12-13 15:26:23 UTC  

Lmao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/522796436803420171/image0.jpg

2018-12-13 15:26:38 UTC  

What’s he doing, crucifying the allied scum?

2018-12-13 15:26:45 UTC  

<:mthink:520000393837674497>

2018-12-13 15:50:31 UTC  

What is this WW1?

2018-12-13 15:50:42 UTC  

The helmets make it seem that way

2018-12-13 15:50:43 UTC  

WW3

2018-12-13 15:51:16 UTC  

@Notso are you an absolute monarchist

2018-12-13 16:00:59 UTC  

Yes ww1

2018-12-13 16:01:03 UTC  

And no

2018-12-13 16:01:15 UTC  

I believe in inalienable rights of the people

2018-12-13 16:01:54 UTC  

So constitutional monarchist? What are those rights? @Notso

2018-12-13 16:04:06 UTC  

Fair trial by jury, no unwarranted search, freedom of movement, no torture, free exercise of religion in the home (though not necessarily in public)

2018-12-13 16:04:33 UTC  

Freedom of movement? 🤔

2018-12-13 16:04:44 UTC  

Is this a no borders thing

2018-12-13 16:05:06 UTC  

No

2018-12-13 16:05:14 UTC  

It'd be hard to ban a religion so sure that's reasonable

2018-12-13 16:05:20 UTC  

The government cannot without due process keep you to a portion of its country

2018-12-13 16:05:37 UTC  

No unwarranted house arrest or imprisonment

2018-12-13 16:06:21 UTC  

No torture is a tricky one. What if the person is guilty of a crime, like an act of terrorism, he's tried and found guilty, etc.

2018-12-13 16:06:40 UTC  

Firing squad or inert gas chamber works to get rid of him

2018-12-13 16:07:24 UTC  

Id also argue life imprisonment is illegal as torture, execution would be ordered in that case

2018-12-13 16:07:45 UTC  

As well as solitary confinement beyond immediate guarantee of safety to others

2018-12-13 16:08:29 UTC  

I'm not sure how effective torture is at actually getting people to reveal information, but let's assume it is effective. Our terrorist here most likely had some friends who supplied him with his guns/bombs and were working together. We only caught him. We want names.

2018-12-13 16:10:00 UTC  

If he is given a trial in accordance with the law and found guilty of bombing a shopping center, killing 20 people, and we want the names of his accomplices, I think torture should be considered

2018-12-13 16:10:35 UTC  

Torture hasn't been shown to be very effective from my understanding

2018-12-13 16:10:45 UTC  

They'll often end up with false confessions

2018-12-13 16:10:45 UTC  

Right, that's what I was wondering

2018-12-13 16:10:51 UTC  

From exhaustion