@Xinyue do you think it's better to organise a society by building families or without it? do you think that institution can be destroyed?

anything can be destroyed tbh, except matter-energy it seems, but yeah it can be destroyed but I don't think that it should be

now family is an abstract concept

I think family can be quite easily described as a relation of real living beings

a very specific relationship that is

it is a way of organization innit?

Its a way of organization that naturally happens around the parents and their offspring yes

a special kind of bond

due to the nature of the thing they organise around

and you agree that it is something that can be destroyed, and that matters

so ideas in our head really matter..?

it can be destroyed yes, why couldn't it be? its entirely possible to destroy this

they are ideas which have root in the world of matter. my parents are beings composed of matter - their organs, their brains, etc. - and of course I am such a being of matter as well. that we even have a family to begin with is rooted in matter. its not an abstract relation

ideas emerge from matter, our brain

if you cannot distinguish between ideas and matereal all these words are useless mate

this is pretty much a deconstruction of the English language for the sake of including EVERYTHING within the folds of the category of Material, for ideological purposes 😂

as *Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism* puts it: consciousness is a property of matter organised in a particular way (that is, the brain). I tend to subscribe to this viewpoint. This is why materialist view on ideas understands their emergent character in direct causal proximity to the world of matter, whereas the *idealist viewpoint considers the ideas as primary and the world of matter as emergent from ideas.*

If you think that ideas emerge from matter, you are materialist.

ffs capitalism isn't an "ideology", it's an economic system

most of the people operating the capitalist order at the moment are essentially "ex" trotskyists and their ilk

Yes, to be precise. Same is true of socialism. However, it is often in final hand argued for in philosophical terms

Oi @Xinyue , what do you think of Stalinism and Stalin?

Not a fan. I don't go out of my way to think he was a complete failure because, contrary to the anarchist position, he wasn't and in fact he was a byproduct of the conditions of Russia at the time, but I certainly wouldn't like to emulate his politics and I am of the de-Stalinization Gang

also the death toll of Stalinism wasn't like muh millions but more like 600,000-700,000 people

un-woke thinking

what a normie

the famine deaths can't be really counted as intentional murder nor can the deaths in Gulag *during the war years* which was the majority of Gulag deaths. but those 600K-700K people who were shot to death can't be argued away - they must be acknowledged and their deaths be criticised

Manufactured Famines are Murder

"muh holodomor" - which almost no mainstream historian would agree with

argument from authority

the new generation of Sovietologists pretty much demolished the anticommunist lies

given the tilt of historical narratives since the 60s in mainstream academia, that's probably the worst argument to make as well

```"muh holodomor" - which almost no mainstream historian would agree with```

it left us still with the uncomfortable figure of 600-700K, which will be the sin of the Stalin era, but it certainly isn't the "muh millions" that so many fucking anticommunists peddled over and over again

there's no evidence for holodomor. there's evidence for famine, but not mass murder

@Xinyue hello kameraden 😃

You don't like to hear about that because they were the direct result of policies that you support

```there's no evidence for holodomor. there's evidence for famine, but not mass murder```


do you consider yourself better than Holocaust Deniers?

even Timothy Snyder, the author of "(muh) Bloodlands", in the end rallied behind this line, that USSR didn't really kill that many at all, even during Stalin

Timothy fucking Snyder

i don't even know who that is or what that represents

the anticommunist position is almost dead if Timothy-fucking-Snyder has abandoned the old guard

oh he's like a right-wing demagogue of a historian

Bloodlands was (in)famous for drawing moral parallels between USSR and Nazi Germany