@Aki they decreased it to send grain to the actual non-aristocratic peasants

lol

>the management in collectives works differently

by not working?

@Stern the produce was all sent to big cities lol

That is a hella argument you are making there.

Wonder if you ever feel like making it in public on Ukraine.

what?

Lol

@Stern nice retort

I'm not ukrainian

@AdorableStormtrooper

So now you admitt that Stalin policies contiributed to famine but claim that the famine was not a bad thing.

when did I claim this

It was for the greater good

So you are arguing from the position of ideology... and frankly speaking I can't challenge you here because morality is subjective...

but you would get a string

"the famine was not a bad thing"

when did I claim this

@Stern right now

"@Aki they decreased it to send grain to the actual non-aristocratic peasants"

here

yes

how is that an endorsement of mass famine on all peasantry

So you are saying that the peasents that starved were the bad peasents but the good ones didn't

because you're justifying it for ideological positions and lies on top of that? @Stern

Isn't that what your argument actually boils down to?

@Aki no

the "bad peasants" were actively engaging in terrorism

like Protests?

the "good peasants" were in favor of collectivization

@AdorableStormtrooper slaughtering livestock and burning grain storages

"don't starve us by taking all our grain" = terrorism

yes, they were protests

Well all you are ding is presenting it from the morality of your ideology.

The argument is pointless and futile.

Farmers don't just Randomly burn their Produce lol @Stern

In RL it could be resolved in physicality.

he will ask evidence of this now

I never claimed otherwise @AdorableStormtrooper

I mean

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