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this

lul no, I agree with a lot, but I just think socialism and communism ignore a lot that has to do with culture and religion and etc, it's a very atheistic ideology, I like the economic aspect (which is pretty much a huge part) and agree a lot of societal problems stem from class conflict, but... I don't like how anti-spiritual it is

Joined khatism

Idk how anyone can believe in the theories of Marxism theres so much wrong with it.
The butchering of Hegelian metaphysics. The oppressor/oppressed form of analyses. The "primitive egalitarianism". The conception that the modern day British expression is universal human nature. The failure to acknowledge that all systems of life are an expression of the people that sustain it.

Abolish culture

create a new slate

I think this is why Socialism and Communism wasn't as attractive initially

For the world

:DDDD

Really though

And imagine thinking societies can live indefinitely without spirituality

Some Gommie states weren't that bad in terms of religion and culture

@aymem you can actually have strong culture based on ideological concepts, religion was in my view proto-ideology; Nietzsche was right in that ideology will in due time replace the function of religion in society

Look at East Germany for example

most commie states accumulated very strong culture

Sure the state promoted Atheism, but it didn't crack down too hard on the Protestant population

several books are written on the topic of Soviet culture alone

my point is that both capitalism and communism ignore culture, one pretty much destroys it (or exploits it) and the other just ignores it as being gay

and i'm talking about culture culture as in idk...

from Soviet architecture to socialist realist art, Soviet cinema, literature, Soviet science fiction; the culture of parades and mass festivals to the rest of it

uhh

Four, there's always fascism and Integralism

I'm tyring to think of the word

fascism is gay

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T. Commie

Integralism is for huehue's

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not for real people

@ImATomato Problem with Fascism is that it confuses nationalism with cultural preservation

and admiration

it also doesn't expand itself into any kind of economic analysis

which is a problem

it goes only so far as to critique laissez faire capitalism, pretty much it

yes

Fascism died very early in it's youth so theres that

well i mean that's kinda lame as an excuse, considering that it begun to take shape in first decade of 1900s, meaning it had at least 40 years to come up with something worthwhile

Marx and Engels in 40 years authored thousands of pages of hard theory that would stay relevant for two centuries

I also think that bourgeois theoreticians came up with more stuff in their first 40 years

and again, this is by design