Message from @aymem

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2018-12-18 11:17:23 UTC  

Marxian Socialism would probably be a good alternative to capitalism, as long as the state is led by anti revisionists

2018-12-18 11:17:26 UTC  

😎

2018-12-18 11:17:28 UTC  

^

2018-12-18 11:17:30 UTC  

this

2018-12-18 11:17:30 UTC  

lul no, I agree with a lot, but I just think socialism and communism ignore a lot that has to do with culture and religion and etc, it's a very atheistic ideology, I like the economic aspect (which is pretty much a huge part) and agree a lot of societal problems stem from class conflict, but... I don't like how anti-spiritual it is

2018-12-18 11:17:40 UTC  

Joined khatism

2018-12-18 11:17:44 UTC  

Idk how anyone can believe in the theories of Marxism theres so much wrong with it.
The butchering of Hegelian metaphysics. The oppressor/oppressed form of analyses. The "primitive egalitarianism". The conception that the modern day British expression is universal human nature. The failure to acknowledge that all systems of life are an expression of the people that sustain it.

2018-12-18 11:17:55 UTC  

Abolish culture

2018-12-18 11:17:58 UTC  

create a new slate

2018-12-18 11:18:00 UTC  

I think this is why Socialism and Communism wasn't as attractive initially

2018-12-18 11:18:01 UTC  

For the world

2018-12-18 11:18:03 UTC  

:DDDD

2018-12-18 11:18:12 UTC  

Really though

2018-12-18 11:18:12 UTC  

And imagine thinking societies can live indefinitely without spirituality

2018-12-18 11:18:22 UTC  

Some Gommie states weren't that bad in terms of religion and culture

2018-12-18 11:18:23 UTC  

@aymem you can actually have strong culture based on ideological concepts, religion was in my view proto-ideology; Nietzsche was right in that ideology will in due time replace the function of religion in society

2018-12-18 11:18:28 UTC  

Look at East Germany for example

2018-12-18 11:18:51 UTC  

most commie states accumulated very strong culture

2018-12-18 11:18:54 UTC  

Sure the state promoted Atheism, but it didn't crack down too hard on the Protestant population

2018-12-18 11:19:08 UTC  

several books are written on the topic of Soviet culture alone

2018-12-18 11:19:19 UTC  

my point is that both capitalism and communism ignore culture, one pretty much destroys it (or exploits it) and the other just ignores it as being gay

2018-12-18 11:19:33 UTC  

and i'm talking about culture culture as in idk...

2018-12-18 11:19:39 UTC  

from Soviet architecture to socialist realist art, Soviet cinema, literature, Soviet science fiction; the culture of parades and mass festivals to the rest of it

2018-12-18 11:19:40 UTC  

uhh

2018-12-18 11:19:41 UTC  

Four, there's always fascism and Integralism

2018-12-18 11:19:44 UTC  

I'm tyring to think of the word

2018-12-18 11:19:46 UTC  

fascism is gay

2018-12-18 11:19:47 UTC  

af

2018-12-18 11:19:53 UTC  

T. Commie

2018-12-18 11:20:01 UTC  

Integralism is for huehue's

2018-12-18 11:20:03 UTC  

^

2018-12-18 11:20:07 UTC  

not for real people

2018-12-18 11:20:10 UTC  

@ImATomato Problem with Fascism is that it confuses nationalism with cultural preservation

2018-12-18 11:20:12 UTC  

and admiration

2018-12-18 11:20:38 UTC  

it also doesn't expand itself into any kind of economic analysis

2018-12-18 11:20:41 UTC  

which is a problem

2018-12-18 11:21:05 UTC  

it goes only so far as to critique laissez faire capitalism, pretty much it

2018-12-18 11:21:15 UTC  

yes

2018-12-18 11:21:20 UTC  

Fascism died very early in it's youth so theres that

2018-12-18 11:21:50 UTC  

well i mean that's kinda lame as an excuse, considering that it begun to take shape in first decade of 1900s, meaning it had at least 40 years to come up with something worthwhile

2018-12-18 11:22:07 UTC  

Marx and Engels in 40 years authored thousands of pages of hard theory that would stay relevant for two centuries